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Zirix Midrange Swarm

#2

My advice is -2 Sirocco, -2 Swarmking, +1 EMP and +3 Portal Guardian. Sirocco is OK but not required in a fault deck. Swarmking is too slow and also seems out of place here. EMP is good in general so 3 of him is OK. Portal guardian is one of the best 3 drops in the game so I would definitely recommend running him if you can.

Given the amount of Aggro on the Ladder right now It might not be a bad Idea to add in a few Azure Heralds. Personally, I would remove LiTD and 1xEMP for 3xAzure Heralds but if you like running the Dessert package that is also perfectly fine, you will just have to burst down Aggro and Burn decks faster than they do that to you.

Your lategame is going to be one of the best in the game currently so you just need to survive to the point where you can overwhelm your opponent with endless Dervishes.

#3

I don’t like the idea of going so far ham with EMP. He doesn’t do anything against the myths, he doesn’t clear board and 7/7 isn’t a major threat in most cases that far into the game. 1 or 2 sounds fine, but 3 just seems like over kill. Definitely don’t want him clogging up my early game hands either which 3 copies of a card typically does.

Portal Guardian is getting some attention from me. It works wonderfully with Fault and Sirocco if he stays around.

Herald could be an idea but I don’t know what I’d cut for him.

Another reason I’m looking at Repulsor Beast is because he synergizes so well with Thunderhorn and LitD.

Swarm King gives us yet another option to combat our biggest foe, that being aggro. If we’re able to safely protect him he does everything we want: clear and establish board presence. Yeah, he is slow and clashes with our main card that we want to get on curve, but I think it might be worth it. One of my toughest matches so far has been Lyonar/Abyssian myth and I think he’d offer some great power vs them. Ooooooor…I could amp up the early game some what to make it faster? Idk really. Keep in mind I’m not playing the post list just yet, but I am running a Fault/Kha deck and it just feels so bad since their late game feels a tad bit stronger than mine.

How does the draw look to you? Some times it feels fine, other games it doesn’t. Almost feels like a 50/50 on that aspect.

#4

OOH SHIT! THIS IS ORIGINAL!!!

#notmeta

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#5

This is just Lost Vet but with Fault Kha and Swarm King…

#6

i know it was sarcasm

XD

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#7

So right now I’m running:

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Haven’t gotten the Guardians or Sirocco to test out yet. Played the deck from rank 9 all the way to rank 5 doing okay. Card draw actually seems fine, least in the early game anyways. Feel like around turn 8/9 I start to sputter out. Need some other card draw tagged onto a body, but I don’t like Spell Jammer giving my opponent stuff. L’Kian might find her way back in since in the worst case scenario I can just replace her trash.

In the matches that Projections mattered it really won me the game I feel. Other times I just replaced it. Didn’t feel bad since I was only running two so drawing another later on was unlikely.

LitD is harder to play with than I thought. However, it’s just like Projections. Late game the combo potential with Repulsor/Thunderhorn was really strong though.

And Swarm King is in the same boat as the other two. Of course, only running one feels like it sways the real statistics of playing two, but we’ll see.

Repulsor felt good, but many times I felt like if I had a Guardian I could had won the game much faster. Especially those rounds where I exploded my golems onto the field like crazy. Gonna test out Guardians soon.

Nother tech idea I had is the possiblity of running Astral Phasing over Projections. It costs more yes, but it can really set up turns where Thunderhorn and Portal Guardian shine. Of course this could lead to a worse match up vs swarm lists. Which…that match up is already not favored if they’re fast.

Edit: There’s actually a 3rd Rae in the list, my bad x3

#8

believe me brother, everyone here knows exactly what this deck is doing, however, seems good:)

#9

Next steps are, I guess: “Look, I made a Wanderer Ragnora” then “Check my burn Starhorn” :wink:

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#10

“you’ll never believe what my new deck is doing, it’s got only one copy for each card and a pimp card which then steamroll you and your whole family forcing you to live in a box under a bridge next to a junky hobo with no legs”

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#11

Okay, people that are just being sarcastic or hateful need to step off. I’m only looking for real help or advice. If you have nothing to contribute then don’t reply. Thanks to all those that did help! :slight_smile:

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#12

We got no hate towards you brother, just that you give it as an original idea and it is the strongest deck in the meta that everyone encounter.

It feels wierd when you explain how it works XD

#13

I never once said it was original, in fact I put it together based off the top two Zirix decks as of late and tried to throw my own spin on it. Trying to make it more viable against the current meta. I’m not a S-Rank player, so that’s why I came here looking for help. So that I can make the deck better able to perform against what I’m most likely to see. And explaining how a deck functions and your card choices is always good for when a newbie stumbles upon the post. Just feels pretty shit when the majority of the comments are just snide remarks about how it’s unoriginal.

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#14

It’s all good man, we love you:)
Just made a little fun out of you

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Too bad you had to take out Sirocco! I admit it’s not exactly meta at the moment, but it is my favorite Vetruvian minion. This is a Golem-focused Zirix list I’m running right now. It may not be as powerful as a Fault deck, but it’s cheaper, and so much more fun.

#16

Well I still haven’t gotten a pair of Sirocco to try out yet x3

15 spells seems to be my biggest concern with this list. Feels like that’s a touch too many. How often do you find yourself with too many of those and not enough threats? Might be okay since you’re running the Dreamshapers and Wishes but it still worries me.

How useful is WCGolem? Not a fan of big dumb beaters myself. Maybe take him out and something else for a set of Portal Guardians? Or get you a set of Boulder Breachers?

#17

I’ve been playing this list for many seasons now, and I personally find the number of spells to be quite comfortable for my playing style. Kinematic Projection is great with Thunderhorn, Inner Oasis are fantastic with Sirocco, and Cosmic Flesh is a valuable play on the 2 drop Golems, so they all have their uses. If you’d rather prefer a more minion-based deck, I would recommend taking out 1 Kinematic Projection and maybe Cosmic Flesh.

Worldcore is another personal favorite of mine, and that’s why I run it, so it’s completely fine if you take it out. Being a 9 drop, it usually doesn’t see much play, but when it does, it’s quite powerful. The opponent may not have any removal left by the time Worldcore hits the board, and Golems are naturally resistant to dispel effects as well. As a side note, if you use Kinematic Projection on a Worldcore, that’s an instant win.

I don’t have Portal Guardians yet, but I have a feeling Repulsor Beast would be more useful. As for Boulder Breacher, I don’t run it there are a lot better things you can do with 5 mana, such as a Sirocco or BoA.

#18

As memetastic as Projections on WC is, don’t think I’ma throw him into my list any time soon. Nice to see some one is getting some use out of him though!

I just made my set of Guardians this morning after I received my rank reward. They’re doing all right, either drawing out removal bait which is fine for me or putting in a lot of work. I like how in my worst match ups, fast aggro, they don’t typically have a good answer for him. Lyonar’s best answer would be Martyrdom which is okay…gimme 8 life back please. Abyssian has Lure and Transformation, maybe punish. Two of which aren’t the best answers. And Songhai has…pando effects and burn, maybe some tp and backstab?

I’m also running the Guardians along side a set of Repulsors. Don’t want to post my current list right now since I’m constantly tweaking it and trying out some other things, but it’s good so far.

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#19

Have you considered fitting in Mirrorim and Orbrider somewhere in there? I find them both to be good additions in a dedicated Golem deck as using them on Sirocco and Dreamshaper can be quite powerful.

#20

I never thought about Mirrorim with Golems, but Orbrider is an option I’ve been thinking about for a while now. Actually, I think I’m going to go test it now. Thanks for the reminder!

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