I usually use it in combo with divine bond on a silverguard knight because with divine bond afterblaze basically reads give minion +6/+4
Ziran too weak for meta
using one solarius dusted spelljammers never really liked it plus opponent normally uses it
Sad thing is that after the expansion, Argeon will still be better at Heal decks
Hopefully some of the unseen cards will change that. ā¦
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oh that kind of lyonarā¦ye i guess that can work once u have the pressure to drop combo for gameā¦but i mean stormblades zir sky phalanx sigh they just cant see play
Iāve actually found reworked spelljammer to be incredible because of its 5 health stat in divine bond using decks, plus I find my opponent rarely clearing or even hitting spelljammer so i find it to be a reliable buff target
Kevin, I have been using a Ziran deck with okay results in diamond (and S-rank in the past 2 seasons) that has maybe like a 50ish winrate, but I feel your pain. I havenāt had quite your level of losing streak, but it is hard to make a Ziran deck that feels like you have the edge against other decks.
Anyway, do not despair too hard, as certainly the expansion will help Ziran a bit. Even if Argeon ends up stronger in the end like some predict, Ziran should be at least a bit easier to ladder with in a few hours once the new cards arrive
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This. Spelljammer is great in Argeon (and I guess also Ziran?) ever since they changed his stats.
I played healyonar at diamond rank 2 using sun sister sterope ,with success last season so I think my deck is fine, the concern is just how much more effort it takes to play the healyonar archetype with success by comparison to tempo or aggro with argeon. I know that kaleos decks and starhorn decks are experiencing similar problems.
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well that was 2 days ago that was fine its just from yesterday until today alot of try hards on ladder try play some games today n feel my pain lol
Well, the expansion is coming today (any minute now), so any point made about meta is a bitā¦ not really pertinent?
havent seen any game changing ziran cards besides the one that heal general ye you can heal opponent minion but why would you wanna. i guess trinity oath might give us a push
Why are you making these threads? Same happend last month.
Idk draining wave may be much better for healyonar than it may seem at a 1st glance. 1st it gives you a board advantage by probably killing an enemy minion but itās also very cheap meaning you probably wont lose tempo when you play it, and the fact that it deals damage to you could be considered a plus because it opens you up to early high value healing options from azure herald rather than just having to play it and get no healing value because itās early game and you still have full health.
yup just saw all the cards overall lyonar got the weakest cards still disappointed (ziran point of view) like does it even makes sense to run trinity oath vs magmar that constantly lets u draw hhaha
I think youāre looking at it wrong. Itās not āuseless against (Starhorn) Magmarā, itās āuseful against everything elseā. A strong heal and a strong draw for that cost is a very good card for Ziran imo.
I would have to say songhai definitely drew the short straw but idk after doing deeper analysis iām finding a lot of ways the new cards could be used that I donāt think people are considering/
it is the problem is that itās still better for argeon
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Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Lyonar got the weakest cards? What?
Yea we (lyonar players) really didnāt get the weakest stuff.
well i aint going online until expansion hits kinda sick of this meta to be honest. i will run 2 tinity oaths if i get it 1000 gold feels bad man. i thought i could just craft excelsious and any other lyonar card so i kepy buying packs until pc gamer dropped the bomb