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#12

it was a relativly cheap deck I agree, thats why I built it in the first place (and because I loved it) and I agree that the crawler buff was great, but you get nothing from all that creep if you cant even control the battle field with it anymore (with cards like demonic lure and repulsor beast killing EVERY single thread) AND cant even finish the game without obliterateā€¦

so making it higher cost by adding more legendarys seems okay it my book, but they should have done it this way at first then and dont change the whole game mechanic to a point where you need a new legendary to even functionā€¦ :frowning:

for a change that big you should at least compensate it for players who main deck it.

#13

I know your feeling bro, but you probably shouldā€™ve kept an eye on Duelystā€™s patches changes, so you could preserve of your collectionā€™s value by disenchanting quick enough when they gets hanged/nerfed.

#14

Firstly welcome back.
Secondly shadow did not get ā€œbuffedā€ and it did not get ā€œnerfedā€ it got reworked into not being simply hoping for a 7 mana shadow nova to be your win con. Now the win con is a legendary card that also balanced the shadow creep mechanic so it feels fair to play againstā€¦ yes that is unfortunate for a f2p account because i simply avoid playing cass because i havent gotten obliterate yet and i wont craft any of them. However i am pretty sure you know how oppressive Shadow Creep was back then before Shimzar and imagine how the new creep cards would be if this mechanic was not changed. What legendaries are you talking about though, most cass decks only run revenant and obliterate as their legendaries (not counting kelaino or spell jammer cause not all do). Most of the good deck is made of commons, rares and basics.

Additional Info: Itā€™s never smart to invest all of your resources into one deck because of constant reworks being necessary to make the game healthier. Also because of the chance that deck becomes irrelevant in a new meta.

#15

What cards do you have? How much spirit do you currently have? Maybe the people on the deckbuilder discord or even us on the forums can salvage something from it. Getting a competitive creep deck and slowly building up to a fully fledged one is not too hard. Assuming that you already have Spectral Revenants and Keliano, this deck can feasibly reach S-rank.

Dirty Creeps Done Dirt Cheap

(Skorn can be replaced with card draw or good 4 drops. Keliano is irreplaceable)

This deck is close to top tier lists, including the one I ladder with and the one on Bagoum (go to site for Duelyst information) with a few high rarity cards swapped out for low rarity counterparts. Up until gold ranked, the deck should have little to no problems, since any tempo deck with a skilled enough pilot can do rather well. However, certain fast decks can cause problems. If you loose to an aggro Vanar who emotes a lot, that is probably just a high ranking playerā€™s alternate account. (or the work of enemy Stands) Seriously, those things are everywhere and can be really discouraging to loose to.

Try to play a bit slower than regular tempo decks. Your win conditions come much later than your opponentā€™s and Keliano will help maintain life total. If you have to, replace her with a good tempo 4 drop and play a tempo deck until you have enough spirit.

Oh, one last thing: it is vital that you play using Cassyvaā€™s original, not MKII skin when using this deck. (you will need the stand power) As for music to listen to while playing, need I even say?

#16

oh so they at least gave you the chance to get rid of your nerfed cards after the patch if you were quick enough? thats something at least I guessā€¦ but then again the most expensiv card did not get touched so i would be stuck with lillith which I dont enjoy at all xD I like controly combo decks. but it is nice to hear that there was some option using the same method as in ā€œthe card game that should not be namedā€. still I think this deck type is amazingā€¦ Im just sad I cant play it right now becuase I lost the win condition and got a ā€œshittyā€ minion version of it (shitty because minios get removed so easily suppose to 13 damage shadowcreep)ā€¦ cant disenchant it because I love itā€¦ and cant play anything else because I have nothing but basic cardsā€¦ :confused:

I really dont know what to do nowā€¦ there are many decks I would love to play and I really enjoy this game the most out of all the card gamesā€¦ but I have no choice but loosing ofer and over to get gold until I reach 900 spirit :confused:

#17

thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.
I think I really played it as a control deck more so then a tempo deck in the first place, slowly build creep while controling the field with demonic lure and repulsor beast.

I currently have 60 spirit, I do NOT have kelaino, since I am missing 9 rare cards from the core set (because I disenchanted everything for my 2 revenants)
some cards in the deck you posted seems weird to me, but I guess thats because it is more of a tempo list now with many little things doing damage, but I guess thats how you have to play it now post change.
why not run shadow nova? why not run darkspine elemental?
I think shadow nova is overpriced now for only dealing max 4 damageā€¦ but it is still good for building up creep, darkspine seems better then skorn though, given that you can deal 2 damage to anything you really want to removeā€¦

there just is no replacement for obliterateā€¦ :frowning:

#18

I have the following legendarys in my collection that currently see no useā€¦ tell me if I REALLY could disenchant them, I dont want to disenchant anything that can be remotly used in any deck ever.

-decimate x1
-tusk boar x1
-deathfire crescendo x1
-golem vanquisher x1 (I know you problably say disentchant, but golems was the first deck I made, is it really terrible to play?)
-sarlac the eternal x1 (lillith deathwatch? yes/no?)
-unseven x1 (what if OP dying wish cards come out at any point in time?)

  • Red Synja x3 got them toghether in some kind of promotion (is it still used?)
    -zureal x1

maybe I just have to disenchant at least 3 of them to make my deck work again? :frowning:

#19

K for keep, D for Disenchant

Decimate - D
Tusk Boar - K
Deathfire Crescendo - K
Golem Vanquisher - D
Sarlac the eternal - (I would K) but most would say D
Unseven - K
Red Synja - D (Maybe keep two copies in case it becomes relevant)
Zureal - D

#20

when you say keep unseven is it because there is potential in the future or is there a dying wish deck right now that I should know of? :slight_smile:

and can you answer my question on golems? are they really that bad? I got to around rank 5 with using my golem control deck as my first deck before I crafted the shadow creep deck :slight_smile:
Edit: then again that was at the start of Duelystā€™s history and there werenā€™t much legendarys in Decks overall ^^

#21

The replacement is of course the artifact which is also a legendary :grin:. Doesnā€™t solve your cost problems though.

Darkspine needs creep placed on an enemy. So with sphere or nova. One damage extra does little usually. Pretty strong if you can stack the effect though doing 4, 8 damage.

The ones most commonly seen in your list are Boar and Crescendo.
Disenchanting 1 Red Synja is a safe choice.

About Golem decks, check Zoochzā€™s deck for ideas. http://managlow.com/golem-surprise/

#22

wait darkspine effect stacks? sounds like a combo to me bois! :smiley:
Now Im defintly gonna play him :smiley:

this golem deck pretty much looks like mine ^^

thanks for the infos on the rest! could need more advise on the other legendarys, as I am always scared to disenchant cards :smiley:

#23

You donā€™t really need to have any legendaries to get out of silverā€¦

#24

Basically the only legendary you should go out your way to craft in this game is SpellJammer, Aymara and Revenant. No matter what deck your running you can probably just put them in there Also you will soon learn that the darkspine effect is powerful but because of how much removal there is in the game now it isnt going to happen. Also Vanquisher really do much for a golem deck anyway besides provide a weak body and taunt

#25

When they balance cards, you can trade them in for full spirit value. You canā€™t expect everything to be the same when you come back to a game after months.

Besides, old creep was op, so Iā€™m sure thatā€™s why you were playing it. Just go pick up Variax and youā€™ll be happy again :wink:

#26

I really donā€™t get the point but this:
ā€œI havenā€™t played for months and now the deck I once had doesnā€™t work anymore. And I disenchanted everything else but this one deck.ā€

Maybe you should believe the active Abyssian players if they tell you that all expensive cards you need are 3xKelaino, 3xRevenant and 1 Obliterate. Since you have 2 Revenants (if I read correctly) crafting the rest of a highly competitive deck should be easy!

Heavy disenchanting is always a bad idea. Meta changes constantly (which is good) so you should keep as many cards as possible. At least the cards for the one (better two or three) factions you like to play.
There is not one deck thatā€™s older then two months that still works perfectly. And hopefully the current meta-decks donā€™t work in two months as good as today.

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#27

thanks for all the help, I Guess I maybe built an oblitrate firstā€¦ or maybe I make a cheap obelysk deckā€¦ I want to keep playing after all. Iā€™ve seen the magmar draw cards, is there a working mill deck in duelyst? Id love that, and at the topic of that, is there now a working website were I can find duelyst related stuff like meta talks and tier lists and stuff?

thanks for all the help, really appreciate it, its great to see so many people still play this game :slight_smile:

#28

You can easily burn cards from your opponent with a Floodhorn deck or something (also works with Vaath). But milling as a win condition does not work because games are much too short to get the decks down to 0 cards (where the ā€œrealā€ milling begins).
The draw cards youā€™re talking of (Entropic Gaze and Tectonic Spikes) are working very well in collaboration with Decimus. But they are also being played just because of the damage they do to your opponent (especially Gaze).

#29

Keep calm and donā€™t invest too much, there may be a nerf bat hit on mid-month patch to balance some cards (Decimus).

Or at least, keep an eye on it, because you will be offered to disenchant every updated card for full Spirit value for couple of weeks (as usual) I guess.

#30

For the beginners Iā€™d like to add that RotB-cards (and only them to the time) cannot be disenchanted. So they have no Spirit value.

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#31

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