Note to all: ecliptix does not put up with off-topic as we may have been accustomed to in the past: by asking us to stay on topic...
Of course, I just assume it was ecliptix. That is one purpose of the flag function, so I don't blame anyone. You don't want your thread locked when no one has even started to talk about the topic yet.
If anyone wants to do a better job at conversation:
I'll try to stay on topic outside of this thread. Guess I am a little spoiled here.