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Vanar Faie bloodbound and chromatic cold

#78

Are you telling me that its fine that a 3drop has to be dispelled or else stops you from playing all of your spells?
Who are you to tell me thats its my fault THAT i play right into?If you would have read my post better you would have seen that i said that i never play into it(because most vanar decks only run basilisk anyways)…the problem is that it still generates alot of value simply by stopping me from casting spells and having to spent quite alot recources to remove it
Sentinels were supposed to be ,high risk high reward, yet basilisk is always reward
Tiger-3drop for 3drop
dispel-on a 3mana minion,SERIOUSLY?
removal-on a 3 drop,SERIOUSLY?
I never said that mindkage was fine…
sentinels should be useless if your opponent knows which one youre playing,that is not true with both mindkage and basilisk.
I would reduce their 3/3 form to 1/1 so that there are ways to kill their 3/3 form without spending about the same recources the sentinel player used for the sentinel(youre supposed to get an advantage if you guess correct),a 3/3 for 3mana is not as bad and fragile as it should be for the entire sentinel concept

Ive reached s multiple times ,never with braindead vaath or freelocarnyst(yes i have no respect for all those who used those decks at their prime to get to s and believe that they are bad and just got carryed by those op decks)
,so just stop assuming that im a idiot who does now know how to play duelyst
Just stop defending your main faction.

I feel like duelyst is no longer a realy skillbased game.
Every monkey can reach S with good netdeck vaath and faie lists
Most decks are autopilot
Most situations feel like theres a clear best choice which is imidiately visible
Most times i lost i didnt feel like i got outplayed but simply outvalued by the more efficient deck(recently i missplay alot but simply because im sooooo burned out with duelyst)

Often i asked myself why i even bother with lyonar if i could achieve S so much easyer with other factions

For first im done with duelyst…i just feel like my skill has too little influence on the matches outcome…
I feel like my faction of choice is more important than my piloting

ps: nwardezir wont get my account,so no reason to ask for that

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#79

Keep thinking about it, will be the best for everyone, trust me :wink:

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#80

Seriously guys, one of you is Lyonar only, the other is Vanar only you will never get to an agreement regarding whose faction is best/worse. I’d highly suggest both of you to play other factions for a change to get a different perspective.

#81

I actually main vanar and songhai and for kicks healyonar so i got a measurement tool

#82

See?? That’s exactly the point, people who took all the fun from duelyst with shitty decks this is exactly why we need sentinels.
To get you back into thinking and stratagizing.
Man, yes! 3 drop that you walked into without thinking or planing should cost me and you a removel, peried.
And no 3 drop shouldn’t be fragile, have you ever ignored azurath lion and got busted for 8 dmg min. Or katara or gorhorn?
And no sentinel should’nt be useless, are you high? See that’s the mind set behind our self destructive urges, always so radical, dude chill.
No sentinel are not high risk high reward, they are stratigic tools, ranged is high risk high reward, sentinels should push you to use your brain which as you just showed us people are not doing enough so i solute cpg to creat cards that makes you cry if you leave them hanging, and 3 mana 3/3 is ok on every level.
Btw - when someone tells this card is fine because this card is fine it comes to show you that the cards can be fluid when comes to power lvl.

Vanar doesn’t only play basilisk that’s what single minded people thing “ohh now i can’t cast spells, oh darn”.
It depends on your deck, i’ve got decks without sentinels just because it’s not synergies well.

I’m not defending something if there’s nothing to defend.
I call out all who cry the same cries ad before the exp. For a reason, we’re not in the same meta, going on to s was hard after the expansion and i usually taking my time not to misplay. Which tells you that i got an actual expirience for measurement.
Btw - most decks are not autopilot, some of them are and they should burn.
I never played arcanyst, rather - vespyr, forcefield, and a few other variations that i like.

Besides - we’re not in a competition, i’ve reached s for the lost year give or take so… it says nothing besides the fact that the decks that you see on s are the more overtuned decks.

Dude, finally yes, i can say whatever you want, you can disagree if you like but coming up with “who are you to?” Is a little bit harsh.
For that i will answer “second lieutenant bar from the idf sniper devision” is who i am, now you know me.

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#83

No. Songhai’s main weakness is their LACK of cost-efficient hard removal.

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#84

I am not experienced enough and I didn’t make this like aah I always lose with Faie in duel you lose to any faction by doing a simple mistake I have win against Faie and the one that most problem gives me is lyonar but I made this post not for the deck or cards, I made it for the bloodbound since she deals 2 dmg to you and your line and I know “playing with Faie is playing against the clock, also positioning” but still thats an unfair BBS dealing -2 each turn you make your combination of monsters magic etc. And in the end of it without touching your enemy giving it dmg each turn no counter while with the others you can make a beast buff that’s true but they can be dispelled, killed, countered.

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#85

Yes you’re right.

Pf, cobra strike, twin strike, shuriken, lightning strike, spirel counter, panda seal, poison seal.
Not including eternity painter, and the dude who kills whoever it touches.

And i believe there are more that i forgot.

#86

Songhai are the master of clearing boards.

#87

And i can tell you are a fanatic, overall i have 600 victories and i reach rank gold only for the reward at the end of the season.

Late gold and early diamond are just jerks they play to win not for fun. Dueslyst its not my life its just a hobby that could be easily enjoyed by many more people if there were less broken cards that chromatic cold is broken. a logical person would see this. has all pros for cheap price it could be easily tweaked.

#88

Lets just contribute to the theme and dont post snarky useless responses beacuse you have half a brain.

#89

Good for you, some of us you just called me a jerk without even knowing me.

Now this is going to be fun.
I could start explaining to you why you’re wrong but calling a stranger fanatic is over the line.
Man, you are messed up.

#90

Get off your hight horse 2 years and you are still diamond?? that doesnt sell well, why arent you in S-Rank?

Rank has nothing to do whit this, this is about logic, Chronic cold its broken got a whole bunch of pros and then some and its cheap and has no weakness. THATS IT , it has nothing to do whit one thing or the other Diamond rank is just the place where hyper agresive people whit a bunch of time in their hands go and play whit a bunch of broken neutral cards to me it means nothing. beacuse we are talking about the balance of a card.

Anyone can reach Diamond whit enougth time but people like me work and have to take care of the house etc. ranks means that you have a lot of time to play like you said 2 years…

Also beacuse people dont answer back to you doesnt mean that you are right… it means that you are a tiring person to whom everybody just ignores beacuse you are a fanatic.

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#91

Soft removal.

Quite expensive.

Requires a spear to be remotely useful.

Does one damage. Really only played because it cycles.

Card is garbage.

Would you really play this over Chromatic Cold or Aspect of the Ravager?

Requires a minion on board.

Costs SIX mana.

Celestial Phantom is almost NEVER played.

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#92

No, i am not mess up i am along whit smokie trying to have a meaningfull conversation about a really broken card and you start mentioning irrelevant things like " ohhh i am Diamond Rank, ohh i play 2 years now" what does that have to do whit anything???

If you werent so hyper agresive i wouldn’t be defensive and we woud have and actual conversation whit logic, and earn each other respect. but throwing your rank around means nothing.i mentioned by rank just to show that i am not a person starting the game that i have a basic knowledge.

Smokie been nothing but courtesous and kind to you and you been nothing but a arrogant person…if you werent like that we could even talk like normal humans.

Which begs the question you are dogding, tell me one Weakness that C. Cold has??? you keep mentioning stuff but her ethe logic question it HAS NONE. its a 2 drop cost, dispells the space which means cards that cannot be targeted by spells get dispells also, dispells from everywhere and deals 2 damage to anything from anywhere… how come its not broken??? i love that card it coudl easily be only the dispell option i have no problem whit that but deals 2 damage to anything? nothing is cheaper than winning a game as Vanar by finishing up and opponet whit a Dispell card???

I love Vanar but i love fairness more and this card which even i use, its broken thats the truth.

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#93

Most of those are soft removal. Isgopet said hard removal. Barring onyx bear seal and painter, if someone drops an ironcliffe guardian, songhai would have to spend half of their hands to remove things with those other cards. One of Songha’s weaknesses is that they cant remove high HP targets very easily. Usng pheonix fires to remove things all the time is simply bad as you miss a ton of damage. These are all damage spells, that will fail with any high health minion. They can only clear boards by using a ton of cards. With ghost lightning you need multiples or crescent spears to make it clear boards. Vanar on the other hand, can use frostburn and clear with one card, use aspect of the fox to get rid of big 5-7 mana threats with a 1 mana card which is simply outrageous, or use a 2 mana aspect of shim’zar paired with thunderhorn to create another AOE effect while hard removing one of the opponents minions, which creates a super strong AOE effect that songhai only can compete with their painter, which costs the same amount of mana but doesn’t deal face (Something even more important in songhai, these two are around the same amount of good as painter only costs 1 card as opposed to two. Vanar outclasses songhai at nearly every turn, and Songhai doesn’t outclass them anywhere.

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#94

Lets just wait 5 minutes so we can all realize whats just happened here and share in this delightful moment of irony.

#95

Spiral is pretty hard removal :sunglasses:

#96

Except you want to get rid of threats before they hit you, not after :stuck_out_tongue:

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#97

I meant the spiral :sweat: