lavaslasher still around (my most hated card in the game) thunderhorn gunna be a thing so why not give us some broken stuff too lol
The card zir,an needs
I didnt ask for justification…i just want to know what you call ,best lategame, so that i can try it out myself
will post decklist soon just hit rank 10 from rank 20 in just 2 hours once i reach diamond u will see… youtube video will be posted soon excelsious vs vanar arcanyst
War Judicator seems really good when it comes out. It’ll be anti-Plasma Storm as well as anti-Natural Selection.
Or
You could heal your minions after trade
Just a thought
yea i guess but vanar counters with displacements
GL doing that against a buffed up vaath while makantors,lavaslashers,natural selection and plasmastorm wipe out everything you play with ease
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Plasma storm hurts Zir’an so much. Pretty much all of her minions have 3 or less attack and, unlike Argeon, she has no way of buffing them. Heck, I would wager to say it hurts Zir’an more than Vet! At least Vet has Allomancer and Pax…
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greatest of ease i feel your pain bro
So you’re saying that playing a 0/10 for 3 mana will help you keep a board against magmar?
Haha.
It was the intention but i ended up focusing too much on not making it op and ,nerfed, the idea
First idea:
3 mana 4/10 can not attack generals or minions and cant be targeted by ENEMY spells and damages itself by 1 at the end of your turn…THATwould be beyond broken but it seems like i nerfed it too much…i entirely focused on reducing that broken card that would…counter vaath:D to something not op
*sorry for my lack of concentration…i posted the primal idea incomplete
Theres a reason this is just an idea
There will always be something that answers certain cards in the game. Vanar seems to have all the answers.
But the Magmar matchup is eased a little with War Judicator, which is a big one for Zir’an. Imagine combining it with Nightwatcher.
Natural Selection/Thumping Wave oh wait, can’t target anything.
Plasma Storm oh Judicator lives.
Lavaslasher oh can’t hurt Nightwatcher, and Judicator lives.
Rush minions oh yeah Nightwatcher.
I think you’ll be able to tech for your bad matchups. 
The only thing that Zir An needs is a Meta with less Magmar and more Aggro. Lyonar just has a shitty lategame so having a meta with lot’s of Midrange/Control decks like rn isn’t really good for them, and Magmar has always been a pain especially for Zir’an.
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Can Night watcher even can stop Lavaslasher? Lavaslasher is Pseudo-rush. So if Vaath hits, followed by a Lavaslasher, would Night Watcher still die? It was the one of things that concerned me when the card was released.
Nightwatcher has no effect on Lavaslasher, but on Makantor, Tiger and sorts. And as long as you keep him out of attack range Lavaslasher won’t be able to kill him due to force field. But he will die to NS anyway so don’t even bother.
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Natural Selection/Thumping Wave oh wait, can’t target anything
[/quote]Thumping Wave can hit War Judicator just fine (unless it’s Aegis Barrier’d).
War Judicator won’t do anything to stop Plasma Storm from wiping everything <4 attack; Plasma Storm isn’t targeted.
That’s not the point, if you have an Ironcliff in his face and he wants to remove it, then he can’t do that because of judicator. He has to remove him first which can be problematic.
Again, that’s not the point. Yes plasmastorm can kill everything else on the board with 3 or less attack, judicator can’t prevent that. But, plasmastorm usually takes the entire turn with 5 mana. Casting it in a situation where the opponent will be left with a 4/5 on the board is very unfortunate for the Magmar player, especially if he is behind on board (which he usually is when he goes for plasma). So while not directly, the fact that judicator is a solid body who can’t be stormed is still kind of an indirect protection against plasma storm.
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I guess you could still use Thumping Wave on the Judicator, (I meant to say you can’t use Natural Selection on anything 
).But, Thumping Wave is probably a good chunk of your turn dealing with a minion other than, say, an Ironcliffe Guardian. It’s a 4 mana spell for a 4 mana minion, so the Magmar player gains no tempo. Using Thumping Wave on this also makes cards like Elyx Stormblade and Grandmaster Z’ir more potent. And, as you mentioned, Aegis Barrier can protect it, creating a very awkward scenario for Magmar players.
Plasma Storm is still good, but it’s more awkward when it isn’t a full board wipe, which is what gives the card its power. And when played on curve, the Magmar player probably only has minions that get destroyed by that card (save maybe a Sunsteel Defender). Every deck has a weakness, but this card helps to patch up that weakness nicely.
Why are people acting as if Zir’an is not supported every expansion. Meanwhile Argeon’s identity is still unkown and he just ends up taking some of her cards and using them better because aggro.
It might be interesting to give her a minion with rush or something but as has been said already i’m waiting to see what the devs have in mind.