whats so surprising about winning 4 games without legendaries?
i hardly have legendaries in my lyonar and magmar decks in diamond, if i take some it’s more for lols or something. they aren’t helping 90% of the time.
The Adventures of Daily Magmar: Entry 1 (A Rant)
Correct me if i’m wrong, but if you use bounded lifeforce you can’t heal back above ten 
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It’s 4 mana for 8 health. Lyonar has a spell which heals you for 5 for 1 mana. I know it’s a different faction and all, but it’s still a large difference and can be used on minions.
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Wait till you play with the Magmar cards that are actually broken. Your deck is still playing nice.
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My original post flagged by community. So I wasn’t suppose to say the deck is bad? Or that if you use bad deck that your understanding of balance should be put in question. I am just curious
Points against the original poster point
1.They played against Kara and 2 vets.The worse current factions/generals at a rank where almost any thing works
2.In throwing together a deck they choose bad minions,even on a budget you could pick better minions
Magmar is very strong but this post does nothing to prove it.And people not calling out player for using bad minions isn’t helping the player.My original post was infinitely more helpful to OP than most these other post because understanding that their deck was bad would have help them to reach past rank 12 with their prefer deck.It is clear to see they have issue with basic deck construction
Healing mystic,Blood tear alchemists and Primus shieldmaster is basic,stuff like Primus fist and azure Herald is commons.Some times you have help a player by letting them they aren’t that good.
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Random note if a person is 13/4(after bounded lifeforce) and they earth sphere.They become 13/10 not 13/12.
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Was sure earth spear was 8hp yeah I’m seeing 8 how I don’t remember them changing it. Anyhoo congratulations I guess but who goes face damage vs a Vaath I think you were lucky on ur versus is all.
Earth sphere does heal 8. But Bounded Lifeforce transforms your general, so your maximum HP becomes 10 instead of 25. (Can’t heal over max HP)
In regards to the surviveability.
Have you ever played against a control-abyssian deck with Kelaino? That’s some healing right there.
Otherwise, any general can survive 2 hits from Mechazor since it’s only 8 damage per shot. 16 damage is over half your health but very surviveable.
I saw the original post, the phrasing was demeaning, but I wasn’t offended (nor did I flag, surprised it was.) I think everything you made, both in the original and this, DOES support my notion though.
This deck is garbage. As I originally stated, I spent like 5 minutes just throwing cards together. I don’t play Magmar, and this deck is pretty trash.
And that’s my point.
Here I am putting borderline zero thought into a deck. Regardless of rank, if you played any of your decks against this and then come to find out they put no thought into building your deck, you’d feel like crap or insulted, because you (and all of us) usually put some thought and care into our deckbuilding, whether it’s gimmicky, meme, or something serious.
This is a trash, 5 minute built deck that won against thought out crafted decks, and won them defiantly. Most decks would consider an opposing mechazor on turn 6 with no removal to be game ending, or at least extremely difficult. Yet, not only did I win, I did it by willingly eat 18 damage to my face.
No other faction would ever even make that consideration or possibility to eat that much damage.
With these cumulative points about a crappy deck and what it got away with, this should disgust anyone.
Not wrong at all! Yea, I went from 13/4 to 13/10. Mistake on my part 
Happy to see I was wrong 
Sorry, but his point still applies. Winning 4 games in a row means nothing, especially at low ranks. Besides the rank considerations, your deck really shows nothing about the problematic cards in Magmar. Magmar was considered one of the weakest factions before RotB, so guess where should we look for fixes to apply? 
Getting caught up 4-0 completely ignores how I got it (I stopped after the 4th win, hate Magmar).
If someone went 4-0, on surface it might not mean much. But, if one of those games consisted of a player beating a 2 or 5 turn Variax without removal, 4-0 aside, that game would still mean something.
This wasn’t a Variax, but it was a Mechazor, and that usually (and should) mean the game is loss or much harder to win.
All the people downplaying your accomplishment are secretly complimenting your skills as a player 
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Point is, try the very same deck against any decent deck piloted by a somewhat decent player and you will consistently lose. I’m not saying I don’t care about the opinion of lower rank players, because I think all players at all levels should have fun with the gamd, but I would not trust their opinion on balancing changes.
Magmar are horribly strong at the moment and a few offending cards are perfectly clear to most players. They will likely be nerfed by the next patch. However, Plasma Storm and Earth Sphere are not those cards. Both are strong value cards, which immensely help Control Magmar decks. But Control Magmar is not the issue, Aggro Magmar is and it is way faster and stronger than your deck.
Good luck with the climbing anyway!
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Those Magmar threads are getting funnier every single day It’s pure ejoyment to read them, thank you all.
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This is what I’m getting at though. I’ve been rank 16-13 for as long as I’ve been playing ladder. It should be understandable then that those I play against are equal in skill level.
My skill + This deck should not beat an equally skilled player with an organized and carefully crafted deck.
To be clear, I’m not suggesting any balancing changes here. This was a rant, as stated in title 
With that, this really wasn’t meant to be even this serious of a thread.
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at the start of the season after reset when i spammed variax to see if someone can actually beat it easily as many players claim it is. by the time i got to rank 10 i had 3 win streak with it, i hate abyssians so i wanted to take a break, took my old magmar deck (not meta, without decimus or stuff like that) and had a 8 win streak all the way to rank 7 combined 11 win streak.
does it mean magmar op?
hardly
i lost the following 4 games with same magmar deck, had to switch to lyonar to not drop rank too much…
magmar are good, and have many good cards and options, but none of their cards seem underpriced, the math seems reasonable, its just the sheer quantity of the options they have that makes them hard to deal with. you can play around pretty much anything they have if you can guess their play correctly.
abyssians with their 5/5s for ~1 mana are just opressive you either build a deck to counter them or get godly draw to be able to actually kill them before they get going or you just lose. (pretty sure i beat 2 tournament winners with my quality variax spamm already, and abyssians are my least played faction).
if i had to choose opponent to be magmar or abyssian i would choose the magmar 100% of the time.
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Okay let me leave some numbers
4 mana 8 damage 2x entropic gaze
7 mana 10 damage bounded lifeforce
7 mana 10 damage eludictor/Thumping wave
7 mana 9 damage Decimus/Spikes
9 mana 14 damage Drogon/claws/bbs
That is baseline for Magmar burst damage.At some point you will make it past your current rank and you will run into “real” Magmars and you will learn why people complain about them.
Healing is not issue in fact when reach higher you will learn that you don’t have anywhere close to enough healing in this game.Magmar has best singlar burst heal in earth sphere,Abyss has the best healing minion in Keliano and Lyonar has collective the best group heals.You will run into Abyss and Ziran who heal just as well probably better than Magmar.
Nothing you described is special or overpowered. Come back and complain about Magmar when you have flash reincarnation+ decimus + spikes+ spikes to win a game or you have flash reincarnation+ drogon+ fractal replication and otk someone.Or my personal favorite player two turn one 2x flash reincarnation+ Sithlar Elder.Magmar can do many gross things but none of them are found in this thread.
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