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Spell Damage Theorycrafting

This is my idea for a Spell Focused Burn Deck

I unfortunately do not have a majority of the Songhai cards, but being a huge fan of Shaman in HS back in my HS days, the concept of spellpower always will appeal to me. Again I don’t have much experience with songhai, but does something like this look playable? Any suggestions would be welcome.

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Why not Reva? Cut Chakri it dies too easily. 3x Heaven’s Eclipse? Really? Strom Kage? What is your wincon I can’t tell.

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He’s playing a burn deck using Crescent Spear, Storm Sister Alkyone, and Eight Gates for a damage boost. The ultimate goal is set a big Firestorm Mantra as a finisher.

For the OP. This just looks like a worse version of Spellhai. Storm Sister Alkyone is too slow for this. Use Bloodrage Mask instead. It functionally does the same thing at a quarter of the mana. Lantern Fox is also good in Spellhai. It gives you more burn and your Gotatsu can hit your own foxes.

Spellhai decks need a lot of card draw. I’ve never played it so I’m not sure if heaven’s eclipse is enough. Spellhai frequently uses Some combination of Heaven’s Eclipse, Spelljammer, and/or Sojourner to get all the pieces they need.

Reva is the better Songhai general for this kind of deck. If you really want to use Kaleos then you might want to consider running Geomancer so that you can have a useful BBS.

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Well, the deck doesn’t know what it’s supposed to do…which is my usual problem.

  1. Are you aiming at mantra combo + chip damage?

Definitely cut:

Chakri (it is a threat, but only if not alone), Alkyone (too expensive), Twin strike (too expensive and unreliable),

Probably cut: 4WM (slow, but can be effective), azure herald (some early game, but not a threat; some healing, but will it save you?), Storm Kage (never managed to use it effectively; is there still hope?)

Definitely add: More mantras, mist walking (cheap and helps while not having board)

To consider: Spirals (both ones), LFox, BRM, Flicker.

In general, to make mantra working more reliably you want as little nonspell cards as you can.

  1. Are you just trying to utilise as many damage modifiers as you can?

Then avoid mantra, use spiral technique, it’s more reliable. 3 Alkyone seems too much even in this case, I’d never use more than 2. Also you REALLY need more card draw in this case : jammers, sojourners, LFoxes, HE - more the merrier. Geomancer is a nice option in burn decks - you may consider. Here I’m really sure Storm Kage is useless. Also you may want to cut abjudicators.

Two-three-four months ago I made this deck and used it in diamond rather successfully. You may (or may not) find it useful.

Burn deck

  1. Also you may add some artifact-based damage to the mix. But this case I won’t discuss, it’s a bit different story)

Needs way more minions, like Lantern Fox. You say spell burn deck but have Mantra and Kage? Get em out. 3 Heaven’s Eclipse is too many, you need Jammer, and probably even more draw. Mana Vortex unnecessary, Alkyone too slow. No reason to be playing Kaleos, especially when you only have a few minions.

Why is everyone saying to cut chakiri? That’s such a good T1, and synergizes so well with casting spells.

In my opinion chakri uses a lot of cards to be useful and to get a lot of value from it. I’d rather play other stuff in most lists. I’d only use chakri in arcanyst and aggro songhai lists, this list is neither of those.

I suppose that’s true, but what would replace it? It’s a much better 2 drop than almost anything else, except maybe the battle pet.

I would help you on this, but the deck really wants to know its goal. Right now, the deck doesnt really quite know what it wants to do to win a game. If you want a mantra deck, you’d take out the chakris, the storm kage, and the storm sisters for more mantras, spiral techniques, and bloodrage masks. If you want a more burn based eight gates deck, you go with crescent spear and remove and add lantern foxes and remove a lot of the other things. I would go a lot deeper than this once you decide what kind of deck you want. I’d say both of them are very spell-focused if thats what you are looking for.

Hey man this ain’t my deck, I’m just a curious bystander lol

Oh, welp, I need to pay attention to these things more.

If you wanted a replacement for chakri , I’d say scroll bandit is a pretty good option.

Scroll bandit, while worthwhile in Kaleos, seems underwhelming without enough teleportation. If one desperately needs an early drop I’d suggest healing mystic (good statline) or even alchemist (ping is never bad).

I actually think scroll bandit is still quite good in reva, with MDS and jux, but that is just my opinion.

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Keyword here is not “Kaleos”, but “teleportation”, so, yeah, I agree it’s good in Reva if you have telepotation spells.

Oh, i see. Yes, without any teleportation spells I’d imagine scroll bandit to be extremely underwhelming. I’ve just been playing with Jux and MDS for so long that it’s hard to think without them :sweat_smile:

Firestorm Mantra counts itself before it does damage so you might want to add in a few ghost lightnings for added cheap spell spam

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