Sure, guess the idea just eluded them in testing but what’s new
So... y ripper hax celerity?
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No offense but in a game like this you just can’t judge one single card, BBS or egg or whatsoever in a sandbox. So:
What would Magmar be without the Ripper these days? (Not saying I’m happy with it - quite contrary!)
Deci spikes starhorn is still alright
Smash vaath would also be fairly strong if kha would be fixed
The slow extinction event eggmars(its actually fairly strong) would also be fine if ripper would lose celerity but get something else for movement(like prongbok)
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Smash Vaath is pretty medicore and Deci Spikes is NOT what a Magmar Player wants to play while the best alternative to Eggmar if you want to win at the moment.
May I ask what do you mean by this sentence?
Speaking of rippers, I would probably leave celerity be, but nerf rippers to 2/1, 1/2 or even 1/1.
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Thats a legit question. Considering theres a lot of egg support now i think ripper would be fine without celerity. 3/1 rebirth is still pretty good for 1 mana and i actually really hope that this nerf Will come Sooner or later
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You feel that ripper without celerity would kill the faction suddenly? I’m not quite sure about that. 3/1 rebirth looks still quite solid to me
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The Ripper Combo is fine, but I get why everybody hates it nowadays with the never-ending WandererRag and BuildRag bandwagons.
I’d go with Alplod’s idea of nerfing the Rippers to 2/1, if there has to be a nerf at all that is.
You guys just need to play Aggro Reva (not OWA/Artifact, just Aggro) or Aggro Kaleos, those are the most powerful decks atm, or at least the most effective Magmar counters as they kill any Mag deck way before they get to develop anything. This is coming from a Mag main before you ask.
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Well, the discussion wasnt about the most powerful deck though, it was just about ripper itself
Sure, let’s not judge Ripper alone and consider other cards as well. How about Greater Fortitude for a 2 mana 10 damage burst? Maybe you can also throw in a Primordial Gazer into the mix, and don’t forget to Lava Lance afterwards. Oh, and have you ever tried Thumping Wave?
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Here i have to disagree, 10 damage for 6 mana and 2 cards (cause the bbs is not in your hand) is actually the most insane burst in the entire game for this amount of cards/mana. The problem imho is that celerity minion are really powerfull and a bbs that creates celerity dudes multiple times during a game is not good.
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To be honest I always thought 1 mana +2/+2 buff is too damn powerful. Hai had +3/0 buff for 1 turn that cost 1 mana and it was nerfed to 2 mana. No other faction has that mana efficient buff.
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Relax, it’s only natural for Magmar to have the most efficient of everything. 
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not that I want to disagree about ripper combos being stupid (they are) but songhai can do 10 damage at 5 mana with saberspine seal + bangle 
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There’s also the fact that it’s a bbs, meaning that rippers are cheap and always available, making ripper combos way easier to pull off than any other 2 card combo.
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I think he means that there are Magmar players and there are Starhorn players. As if they were different factions. I agree, in the sense that, someone attracted to Mag is in it for the raw power, whereas a burn oriented guy will move towards Songhai, which means its like you’re not all that fond of Mag’s main identity gimmick if you’re playing burn in it. Youre not in it for the reptilian, you’re in it for Decispikes. Decispikes is a faction.
Dont worry about them, the lizards always have an answer.
Well - an old discussion. There were times where Magmar was all about big, fat and sticky. And control. I don’t want to say that they are not about this today but Spikes is the opposite of exactly this. Also: Spike damage is bad! 
I don’t think Magmar would be killed but Ragnora would be. I also feel Magmar would not have any Meta viable deck without Ripper in it’s actual state. Not counting Wanderer (which I really hate concept-wise) and Spikes (see above). This said I think Magmar lost it’s original identity.
I’m a Magmar only player. So I know how unhealthy Thumping was - until it got nerfed.
That’s why I love them! 
As a Magmar only I can tell that one of the reasons I don’t play the game that much I once did is said identity loss of the faction. I don’t think the situation is fatal. You still can play “controllier” variants of Smash Vaath. You just can’t win tournaments with it.
And not to forget - I’m biased.
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So, considering that even after an hipotetical nerf, magmar would keep 2 top tier archetypes i will take the risk, since there are faction who have 0 or 1 top tier atm.
Also i think eggmar would still be a thing even without celerity
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Before Ripper (read: Ragnora) Eggmar was nothing but a meme.
Afaik we don’t have any information about a Ripper nerf. And I don’t see a critical mass of players complaining about Ripper. Magmar always was the faction most complained about in general.
In my very own universe Ripper is fine as it is.
Nope.
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