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Shimzar Spoilers day 17: Afterblaze

#21

Seems pretty gud :imp:

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#22

Lyonar gets another great tool in gauntlet in the common rarity. I would argue that this is even better than killing edge in gauntlet. Generally, zeal minions are better than backstab minions in gauntlet (with the possible exception of the new Solaris card) and the extra health and small boost in attack makes the affected minions more durable as well as allow low drops to trade many for one.

#23

Let’s do some math.

If you have a 2/1 minion (ie. Bloodtear Alchemist):
Divine Bond + Divine Bond = 4 damage
Afterblaze + Divine Bond = 9 damage
Divine Bond + Divine Bond + Divine Bond= 5 damage
Afterblaze + Divine Bond + Divine Bond = 14 damage
Afterblaze + Afterblaze + Divine Bond = 15 damage
Afterblaze + Afterblaze + Afterblaze = 8 damage

If you have a 3/5 minion (ie: Silverguard Knight):
Divine Bond + Divine Bond = 13 damage
Afterblaze + Divine Bond = 14 damage
Divine Bond + Divine Bond + Divine Bond= 18 damage
Afterblaze + Divine Bond + Divine Bond = 23 damage
Afterblaze + Afterblaze + Divine Bond = 20 damage
Afterblaze + Afterblaze + Afterblaze = 9 damage

If you have a 3/10 minion (ie. Ironcliffe Guardian):
Divine Bond + Divine Bond = 23 damage
Afterblaze + Divine Bond = 19 damage
Divine Bond + Divine Bond + Divine Bond= 33 damage
Afterblaze + Divine Bond + Divine Bond = 33 damage
Afterblaze + Afterblaze + Divine Bond = 25 damage
Afterblaze + Afterblaze + Afterblaze = 9 damage

As you can see…as long as you have 1 Divine Bond, Afterblaze roughly functions as another Divine Bond. So while this card doesn’t increase the chance of a single Divine Bond, it doubles the chance of an effective double or triple Divine Bond.

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#24

You just made me twice as hyped for this card. Thx! :heart_eyes:

#25

Very powerful card, seems like I’ll be switching from Songhai to Lyonar XD

#26

Big dudes standing and staring at each other and smacking each other in the face…works for me ^^

#27

Two questions:

  • If a Minion has previously been targeted by Lionheart Blessing, does Afterblaze’s cantrip work on it?
  • Do dispelled Minions that had Zeal prior to being dispelled trigger Afterblaze’s cantrip (I assume not)?
#28

Oh, please no… This sounds terrible

#29

It’s terrible alright, no way it will ever work out like that. Lyonar is all about establishing board control and using a single DB, two if you’re lucky for lethal. It’s a lot harder to do so when you have card such as Afterblaze in your deck which is just a poor buff made for faction which is extremely vulnerable to removal.

It’s very easy to make a bad card look good with some fancy math, but that’s not how things end up working in an actual match where best case scenario happens very rarely.

#30

I would agree if the card could not draw you a card.

I think Afterblaze has all the ingredients to be great: it gives you immediate value (+2+4 buff you can use right away), replace itself and if you can use the buff for additional turns it is only a bonus. Does it mean it will be played in every Lyonar deck? Not necessarily, but saying the card is terrible is laughable.

Definitely agree on that, the double afterblaze/DB is not going to be easy to set up especially with the Divine bond nerf. The card is good but not because of that.

#31

I agree with you. I ran the extra numbers because I like numbers. But I also pointed out that this card only shines in the “double DB” arena. If you draw this “instead of” Divine Bond, it’s not nearly as good. It’s the gamble that you take. If you only want a single DB, then don’t run this. If you like pulling the double DB, this card will help you a lot.

#32