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Shimzar Spoilers Day 1: Beastmaster

What makes you say that?

I’ve seen it in some gimmick songhaï strat trying to replicate the old fox combo

Add to this the fact that sword of mechaz0r is played as well in some gimmicky Songhaï decks and you have the perfect Songhaï gimmick card

No worries there’s a hard counter for him :joy:

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This is gonna be so good in Songhai, prepare your anuses !!!

YAY, more content for my Celerity Lyo list! :heart_eyes:

yet another reason that it’s good they nerfed vindicator

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Seems amazing and fun )

I wonder why EVERYONE thinks about songhai when seeing this…

It has celerity so the weakest aspect of frenzy just isnt there nymore and any buff makes this carzy…and its a 5 drop.

By why is that so important? Welp it woud be ad with 1+/1+ as an 6 drop but 5 drops and 3 drops are some of the most simple to summon minion due to the curve we have and how they woud perfectly fit into most curves.

Will like this in magmar…just a thread in the 5 mana slot where not may minion REALLY shine…

Imagine Deathstrike Seal.
This is the second card in a row (after Sodomo) I don’t like. I was so hyped about Shimzar and the more I know about it the more I’m disillusionated.
I promise to try to keep the hype up but the last two cards… don’t seem to be healthy for the game. We still don’t know much about Shimzar so this is my hope.

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I don’t see the issue. Both cards look painfully average. Trying to evaluate the cards based on the best case scenario considering the current set of cards is what’s unhealthy. 9moons is a typical example of an unhealthy design. Both of the revealed cards don’t even compare to it.

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It’s good card with obvious strong points (Songhai), but it’s also weak to cards like Zenrui, grovekeeper, and plasma storm. While Songhai is the only faction that could gain immediate value with this card, it could also work in Lyonar with divine bond fire to celerity.

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It is werid how people are evaluating stuff for me.The actually game isn’t played like that nothing survives for more than a turn unanswered.

There is a four cost five health minion name Taygete and metagame has evolved around killing it and Beastmaster is far easier to kill. I said it before we already have Dagger Kiri,If people ain’t inner focus +Saberspine with Dagger Kiri it ain’t happening Beastmaster. I am not the most skilled player but I have tried Kiri in Lyonar and Songhai.It doesn’t really work.If Lux inginus (which you play hiding in the back )doesnt work in Lyonar this won’t work either.

I hope I am wrong ,Maybe they add new card that makes it work but if the new meta is close to this meta.It won’t work consistently enough to be used outside inner focus.Anyways off to put Lux inginus in Healnar again see if I can make it work

I see what your saying in regards to bigger that’s such as Taygete, but I don’t think beast master should be compared to daggered Kiri. While they both have celerity, beast master has frenzy, which by itself is a powerful keyword ability, and with celerity it has the potential to control a larger area of the board compared to other frenzy effects by attack, changing position, and attacking again. I would like to test this card out when the expansion comes, due to its potential to be a great board control tool for certain control decks. Dagger Kiri is more of a budget win condition, and doesn’t have frenzy to deal with the board, which is the main thing that sets then apart.

I think it is good card.Just Inner focus and Beastmaster is good enough,5 health is enough to survive 2 swings so it basically Warbeast imo.

What I don’t agree with is the big dream of buffing it and doing crazy damage.Nobody will let live for a turn.Anyways I am looking forward to it anything that can possibly make opponent use removal might have use at some point.

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yep, songahi has a cheaper warbeast now. fun times ahead D:

Makantor is infinitely better than Beastmaster.

Yes Warbeast has rush and the higher attack but Beast Master has celerity so it can hit for 2 twice so with inner focus is about same thing. Except if your up against a big taunt that has a high attack then difference in attack matters.

Needing two cards rather than one makes a world of difference. And even with inner focus the card is subpar. It’s only really good with a 3 card combo, something you can’t really rely on. And that’s fine, because it’s not supposed to be that good in the first place.

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Yes and so does 4 and 2 attack,If Beastmaster picks to attack a 1/1 then second time attacks it takes on more damage than Warbeast. Nobody said it was exactly Warbeast or better than Warbeast.

All that was said with inner focus it comes close to replicating Warbeast.Most of the time it will hit bunch of things for 4 damage like Warbeast.

why everyone thinks songhaï?

because it’s the only faction that can make use of it’s incredibly innefecient statlines for its cost before it gets naturally selected or anything else.

Basically why would any class run this on the turn you have to BBS? I’d rather drop a veteran silithar or much better, an Earth sister + BBS than playing this piece o’ cr…

And cmon, at turn 5 an overcosted minion that barely survive being naturally selected, you gotta admit that’s pretty below average. So I maintain my point with this card: Songhaï or nothing.