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Rise of the Bloodborn Discussion Thread

Variax is absolutely AWESOME. Curious to know what furious wraithlings are, though.

Also: 2 mana 4/4 Fiend? I hope this is just the token for the awesome abyssal scar and not an actual minion. EDIT: On closer inspection, it likely is a token, as it lacks a rarity indicator.

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Yes it does assuming your on p2 side or you may not have the mana :smiley:

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Furios wraithlings are wraithlings affected by Wraithling Fury so they are 5/5’s

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Wow, can’t wait to try out variax in both cass and lilithe!

Knee-jerk review of the newly revealed cards incoming! Warning, it’s fairly negative. :confused:

[details=Lyonar] * Draining Wave is hyper-tempo, not pleased to see it at all (either in Gauntlet or Constructed).

  • Prism Barrier is hypo-tempo, and is an extreme waste of an expansion card slot (also abysmal in Gauntlet).[/details]
Songhai

* What even happened here? Songhai drew the shortest stick by far. These cards are so deeply uninteresting and redundant, it’s unfathomable. I sincerely hope Saberspine Seal is getting some significant change, otherwise I would argue for hyper-redundancy.

[details=Vetruvian] * Divine Spark: A fine card, and it’ll certainly see play in both Gauntlet and Constructed.

  • Incinera: Love this card. Simple yet effective, and helps push the proximity theme. Very nicely done across all dimensions.
  • Autarch’s Gift: A fascinating, condensed card, but I think it may be too overcosted for Constructed. In Gauntlet, I won’t mind experimenting with this.[/details]

[details=Abyssian]* Aphotic Drain: This card is absolutely terrible, andI don’t see where this fits, as 3x Kelaino should provide more than enough healing for a Swarm Lilithe. Zero constructed playability, and at common it will seriously impair Abyssian’s draftability.

  • Grandmaster Variax: Hoooooly wow, every other faction got shafted, as this Grandmaster is super fun. I’m assuming the Wraithlings become 5/5’s via Wraithling Fury. If so, that is phenomenal. However, I really don’t like the cheesy, Hearthstone-esque wording at all (ā€œTOTALLY TUBULARā€).[/details]

[details=Magmar] * Again, what is even going on here. CPG had so much options on the table in terms of Eggmar/Growmar, and they go and waste it all on even more uninteractive Aggro. Very disappointed.

  • Entropic Gaze: Are you kidding me? Tectonic Spikes wasn’t enough, we need another spell that does the exact same thing just a little differently. 4 damage for 2 mana is disgusting, and Magmar will surely be bale to draw into all 3 copies with ease. This is so absurdly unbalanced that I seriously wonder at the competency of the team. Also, it’s quite the mixed message to talk about supporting control playstyles in the Dev Talk while printing absurdities like this. :confused:
  • Valknu’s Seal: Is an actually interesting and creative design, but I don’t exactly understand how it fully works. For instance, is the spirit treated as another General, or is it pure stats? If pure stats, it’s terrible.
  • Rancour: A terrifyingly effective Aggro 2-drop. Possibly balanced on its own, but not with cards like Tectonic Spikes and Elucidator. Again, where’s the thought process here?[/details]

[details=Vanar] * Frigid Corona: Fairly average. I mean it certainly pushes towards an legitimate Freeze Faie, but I’m not sure if it’ll actually make the cut.

  • Myriad: I’d consider this just below average, and I’m not sure why 3/4 wasn’t considered as a stat distribution.
  • Sleet Dasher: Also below average. I wish this could’ve gotten the Vespyr tag instead. May be a fine board control minion for Kara (whom sees no play).[/details]
Neutral

* Cryptographer: We all saw this one coming. It’s a fine minion, and it may be able to fit in Freeze Faie (but not sure where else). A fine pick for Gauntlet, especially Reva and Faie.

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Variax sounds so borderline broken lol. Go ahead and summon 10 4/4s for 3 Mana :slight_smile:

At the same time, with 10 Creeps you might as well just cast Obliterate for most likely lethal.

I love all of these effects. Songhai got some cool ones, but I think it’s safe to say they got the bottom of the barrel this time. Really looking forward to try swarm abyssian (ft. Blood baronette), heal Lyonar, and artifact Vetruvian this season. Also, nice to see the return of old scions 2nd wish (at 1 extra cost), and a more draw/removal options for all of the factions.

welp, time for cas to fight argeon for half a month

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Knee-Jerk reaction:

Lyonar: This is a faction that I once overlooked for being too boring. Now, they have a ton of interesting effects. However, most of them will probably be overshadowed by their generic ā€œdraw 3 cardsā€ card, which will just continue to push their aggro.

Songhai: Most of the cards seem pretty meh so far, but they do have a fair few infinite effects. I like it.

Vetruvian: The new late-game monster. However, will their lack of ranged removal allow them to get into the lategame in the first place?

Magmar: Magmar now has an excellent 2 drop and a bunch of memes. Overall, I feel that Magmar may be the new Aggro-Spellhai with the 2 new agressive 2 drops

Abyssian: To me, this faction is the clear winner, both in terms of fun cards and good cards.

Vanar: Control Vanar is looking more and more viable by the minute. However, I was expecting a new wall, but you can’t have everything.

Neutral: A community acknowledgment and two anime references. I like it.

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Obscuring blow is an infinite effect when applied to your general. I wouldn’t discount its usefulness just yet. Using it in conjunction with Twilight Fox could actually be a strong way to control the board. That being said, cobra strike and ethereal blades do seem rather underwhelming.

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Don’t forget to vote your thoughts on all the new cards! I’m going to collect the votes and crank something out early next week!

Final reveal cards only:

Name Poll Card Image
Draining Wave Poll Image
Prism Barrier Poll Image
Obscuring Blow Poll Image
Ethereal Blades Poll Image
Cobra Strike Poll Image
Divine Spark Poll Image
Incinera Poll Image
Autarch’s Gifts Poll Image
Aphotic Drain Poll Image
Grandmaster Variax Poll Image
Rancour Poll Image
Entropic Gaze Poll Image
Valknu’s Seal Poll Image
Frigid Corona Poll Image
Myriad Poll Image
Sleet Dasher Poll Image
Cryptographer Poll Image

You can find the entire poll thread here.

Aggro magmar looks reeaallly strong. Their ability to rush you down pre-expansion was already pretty high; with the addition of entropic gaze, which seems very very efficient, not to mention tectonic spikes and drogon, it will be scary stuff.

I’m in agreement with your assesment so far.

Initial impressions are that
Lyonar and Abyssian will be the top dogs the next few months.
Songhai got some interesting backstab cards to help out Kaleos, though I’m not sure it will be enough. Also what point is there in playing Saberspine Seal when they’ve got something better?
Vanar delaying scares me, especially with Faie controlling you and just shooting you every turn in the late-game.
Vetruvian I have a hard time telling what they’ll do with these cards. Sajj will definitely see more play with these cards.
Magmar is all aggro all the time. While expected it is still unpleasant to realize. Entropic Gaze is silly good.
I honestly wanted some more other cards but it seems they want to up the duelyst tempo even more.

I can honestly say I’m not quite sure I’ll still like the game with the amount of FACEFACEFACE this expansion brings.

Looks like solo vaath is not really that solo anymore

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Wonder how Valknu interacts with Artifacts

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Me right now, closing and relaunching the game repeatedly.

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No, please don’t release it yet, my brain still can’t handle the cards. I need more time! I need more space in the decks! I want to play all of this! :astonished:

I am flabbergasted; can’t believe how wrong I was about what this expansion would look like.

This expansion is just stuffed with high-risk-high-reward cards. Answer or die, fools.

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I’m kinda sad they didn’t release any new artifacts

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I cannot believe it’s not released yet!
I Did an essay, completed a 5000 pieces puzzle and taught my dog how to read
release this or else!
and by else i mean release.

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