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Returning player, how do you beat Arcanyst Vanar?

#11

If you have the spirit to spare Magesworn can often shut down Arcanyst variants as it prevents them from playing the cheap spells that fuel their synergies, including their BBS’ and pretty much all their single-target removal. Besides that, as mentioned Lightbenders are a cheap investment that work very well as counters to minion-based decks like Arcanar.

Honestly I have had success with Healonar recently, but mine makes heavy use of cards from several expansions, particularly Unearthed Prophecy which gave Hallowed Ground to Lyonar which hands out heal procs like a low-rent hooker hands out VD.
However it is definitely not S-tier and loses out to a lot of the top-tier decks at the moment.

If you have a decent collection or grounding in some of the other factions you may try building a budget deck for that faction, as Lyonar is kind of down on their luck right now besides Swarm variants.

#12

Well, got time to check and realized I don’t have nearly enough spirit right now to make a full deck with all those cards (can probably just decide to trash some legendaries/epics I won’t use but I’m terrible at deciding which ones those will actually be).

I’m got some gold but not a huge amount and I’m not entirely sure what the absolute best orbs to open would be right now, with the end goal of this magmar deck. Just go for the newest one since that has legendaries I need in it?

#13

Yes, you are, like everyone and his mother a couple seasons ago :slight_smile:

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#14

the tierlist goes like this
vaath
faie
everyone else
ziran
maehv

choose your deck accordingly

#15

Don’t do my girl Maehv like this, she’s 3x better than Ziran if you’re running the only good Maehv deck

#16

I got a quest for vanar games, only to discover almost everything in my budget kara deck either costs more than it used to or is slightly less effective like chromatic cold :cold_sweat:. Plus it was initially made before kara’s bloodborn spell got nerfed, but it was still definitely playable after it… but now, ehhhhh…

And I don’t have enough spirit to shell out for this arcanyst vanar, especially when I’m building up that magmar deck now I guess

seems tough to get back into these digital card games after a year+

#17

what IS the only good Maehv deck?

also ditto-ing everyone else:
Lightbender gud. EMP also gud.

#18

I didn’t know about EMP before I asked this. That is a hell of a dispel option that’s now in the game, assuming you live long enough (unfortunately, the deck I was playing sure doesn’t want to get dispelled itself so it wouldnt fix my bad deck. Still gotta start over somewhere)

#19

I suggest you try it anyways. It’s cheap to craft solid minion you can put in many lists. It’s just so good, some obelysk decks run them. something about your opponent almost always losing out more than you do when you drop him.

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#20

What’s the good Maehv deck?

#21

The good Maehv deck has 3 Prophet, 3 Gnasher, 3 Mystic/Azure, 3 Sphere, 3 Whip, 3 dispel of your choice (Shroud is better), 3 draw engine (Neko or Jammer), and 3 Desolator. Look at Deathsadvocate’s tempo Maehv for an idea of where to start.

Very difficult to create a competitive Maehv deck that doesn’t have the above (although Rescue can substitute for Mystic or Azure).

#22

If you want to safely farm a bit go full gauntlet :slight_smile:

And then i say:

  • choose a starting faction to main
  • craft all you need from that faction dusting almost everything from the factions you don’t like/won’t use.

Then you can start thinking about techs and laddering and meta and things like that…

#23

You sure about that? Only faced ShidaiArcanyst recently and they were far from an easy match-up. I’d think Vanar is pretty comparable. 4+ health minions and a resilient value machine is pretty rough for Magmar. Not too mention the easy access to dispel and cheap single target removal

#24

lasting judgement answers prismatic illusionist
martyrdom answers owlbeast
circle of life answers trinity wing

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#25

With the new nerfs to magmar cards, is it worth building towards a magmar deck still or should I go for something else for the first deck I make? Still just grinding gauntlet whenever I play currently to try to get enough orbs to make something

#26

Magmar will still be strong, but I recommend building what you enjoy playing.

#27

what I previously enjoyed playing was heal lyonar and swarm abyssian but apparently healyonar is bottom tier and I’m pretty sure swarm isn’t very good against plasma storm which I think I’ll still be seeing a lot of? So I’m not exactly sure what the best direction for me is at this time.

(also played midrange kara, but back when her bloodborne spell was different and before more than half the deck was nerfed lmao)

#28

There is a swarm Lyonar deck which uses Sunforger that can be buffed out of Plasma Storm range. You might enjoy that, but I don’t know the deck list.

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#29

Search the forums for “Brome” and you should find most of these lists

as well as…other things

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#30

Rebuke is the biggest threat to Swarm right now imo. The ladder is diverse enough you could probably play either of those lists, but it’s so far from meta climbing will be more difficult.

I recommend big Lilithe if you’re looking for something similar to swarm. You can also kind of make it hybrid swarm by tossing in DFC, BTP or Shadowdancer.

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