New Player Query

[nssheepster]

Still a bit new, as the title mentions, so…Haven’t even seen that card yet.

[kokosus]

It is 6 mana 4/4 with Rush (Charge) and Frenzy (damages every foe around it)… OP

[nssheepster]

I can’t be sure (Again, I’m new) But that does sound pretty OP. So replacing it isn’t the best move, nerfing it is. IF it is OP, IDK for sure.

[ezekeel]

Makantor was just an example. Take any other card like, let us say, the Silverguard Knight which I would say is Lyonar’s BIS for 3 mana and an autoinclude. What card would be exactly equal to that one?

[kokosus]

This is balanced I mean, because every Magmar deck is playing that, because it is one of cards around them Magmar is build. It is something like Flamewreathed Faceles or Savana Highmare in HS…

[gabriek]

something beefy with healing synergy for ziran perhaps?

[ezekeel]

Perhaps. My point is when you get down to stats and actually try to express your idea in integer numbers there are limited possibilities for fine tuning and one of these two cards will almost inevitably end up as the stronger one over the other.

[BlankTrack]

Dr. Boom was an extremely stupid OP card. But Duelyst has nothing that awful.

[narasimha]

Not since Kron got wrecked, anyway

[BlankTrack]

Thats true, but even so I think Inquisitor Boom was stronger than Dr. Kron. Kron was also nerfed eventually and according to the wiki Boom is still untouched.

At least you could only have 1 legendary in HS just imagine how much more often you would have seen him if you could run 2 copies. Would have almost literally been double the times lol.

[deathsadvocate]

It absolutly does not have to happen, and it currently is nothing like that, they do a fairly good job balancing things. I would not worry about it as its not even a concern untill way down the line.

Any plan for formats?

No! God no, please no. Rotating formats are the worst, and a huge money grubbing scam.

Power creep is also not a good method, and it does not necessarily have to happen, especially with a digital game where they can adjust both old and new things at their leisure. Releasing new cards, balancing over turned things, buffing older cards, and supporting various archetypes prevents things from getting stale.

Not to mention it divides the player base between formats. Gauntlet is enough of an alternate game mode, although it really ought to be free, but harder to get rewards out of.

A rotated format is not any friendlier to a new player, the costs are usually the same to make a deck, they have to do just as much learning, and the meta Is super stale for a couple months due to the tiny card pool. And then guess what, time to throw away all your old stuff and buy everything new! To prepare for yet another boring stale couple months, and then it repeats again.

Has anyone ever actually been scared away by a large card pool? I see big pool and think lots of customization, I can do what I want and not be all cookie cutter, and am thrilled with the constant discovery. Most of the learning is mechanics and basic tactics which have little to do with the card pool.

There is a reason why Modern and EDH in MTG are quickly becoming more popular than standard despite that Wizards goes out of their way promote Standard. And unlike Legacy/vintage because edh/modern gets the balancing attention they need, they have been very successful, and that balancing is much easier for a digital game to.

[hummingbirdsmasher]

I think Duelyst will likely have different phases of cards as you say.

The difference in duelyst is however, that it is much easier to obtain rare cards. You can actually keep up with the meta and expansions as a casual player who does the daily quests.

So. I’m not worried.