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Is Duelyst dying? :(

#74

Duelyst has died a few times already- All card games do. When I began, Duelyst was about playing around Kara and overly generous neutral minions, Shadow Nova, and Flashed out Taygettes. That game is buried, and good riddens. Ancient Bonds era Duelyst is dead, cards got nerfed, others didn’t- and while I may largely disagree with a whole heap of design decisions going into the environment which prophecy was crafted to occupy; it is, itself standing on a corpse.

I know this might seem a little lolsy- but this is how card games do. Duelyst has to refine and update it’s foundation; and then seek to build upon the established viral marketing campaign once the new player experience, relative balance, and other myriad issues are addressed. User decline, is hardly the same thing as the game’s “death” (since the OP means “the game becomes so inactive that it isn’t worth running the servers”, obviously.)

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#75

Players aren’t climbing the ranks against a static AI snapshot of constant skill. You decrease the skill of the population, it just means lower skill gets you higher ranks than before. If BN were to ban the entirety of S-Rank, S-Rank wouldn’t cease to exist. It would just mean that the skill level would drop and the next best clique of gals who were previously kept down by the newly banned old S-Rank would become the new S-Rank.

It’s not an exact measure, but it’s a lot better than using Steam population. =S

That ain’t so bad!

I mean, from the look o’ it, Duolist may not be in her prime anymore, but it’s more like the 32-year-old version of the girl vs. the 20-year-old version of the girl. Sure, she ain’t worth half what she used to, but it’s not like she’s staring menopause in the face or nuthin’. Certainly “dying” would be an exaggeration.

The clock be a-tickin’, but Duolist’s still got a few jiffies to find her man, squeeze out a couple o’ mini-Duolists, start dying, and die. Gotta stop wastin’ time on that crappy BN paid online dating site, though. =S

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#76

Gotta love the way he phrases his argument. Very reminscent of Witcher and Dragon Quest.

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#77

Yer a fan o’ the ol’ Yangus, eh old man?

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#78

This is all part of the natural cycle of a collectible card game.

  1. New platform release = influx of a LOT of new players.
  2. New expansion release = influx of some new players.
  3. Big marketing push = influx of some new players.
  4. Downtime as they work on the next #1 and #2 = slow decline of existing players.

You see the same thing in every card game on the market - on a scale relative to those games’ player bases.

Currently we are in #4 and will remain there until the next #1 or #2 at which time we will see an influx of players again.

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#79

You do know that duelyst lost 90% of her player base on steam despite the new expansion.

It’s not the expansion that is the problem, the problem is not delivering things that have been promised for a tear and a half now.

Look at the new update, this shit is a fucking joke.
I’m sick of it… i supported and funded duelyst from the start, and right now they throw a bad of dicks at our face.

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#80

That’s not accurate. The last expansion released in July and, according to steam charts, the game received a 79% gain in peak players relative to the #s before the expansion when it released.

Each month since then it’s been about a ~25% decline, which is the same rough monthly percentage decline you see in other CCGs like Faeria between expansion releases.

Also, these are just the steam numbers. Is this 1 to 1 with the Windows client? Who knows.

If I were involved in the business of Duelyst and it was my decision to focus on more frequent content updates vs. new platform releases at the expense of new content for a while, I would push to get on new platforms first and then try to get back to more frequent content updates.

That said, I would also be transparent about that choice to the community so they weren’t left in the dark. :slight_smile:

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#81

Well at least there’s no-one alienating half the potential player base on the forums :thinking:

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#82

Wow this thread is still going. The playerbase unrest is real.

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#83

No you’re wrong, this thread is dying.

:face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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#84

Duolist triggers not the Supreme God of Hurt Feelings™. You are thinking Battleship! =S

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#85

I understand your reasoning for believing this topic is dying, but it seems there’s still a sufficient amount of activity here to keep it going for some time to come. Clearly, we need to be logical about this and not let personal bias cloud our eyes. Confirmation bias can distort your view of reality in ways that will change your actions for the worse.

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#86

A game is either thriving, dying or dead. Unless its obvious that it’s thriving, you only have so many alternatives.

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#87

Don’t forget Schrodinger’s game that is both dead and alive :wink:

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#88

SPOILERS!!

15ch

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#89

Some games are none of those (a single player game for example), so if there’s a very easy other possibility found, maybe those are not the only possibilities.

Like, a game having a temporary slump, for example. Or the phase before it becomes thriving.
Etc.

Many more points on the life-curve of a MP game exist.

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#90

After I posted, I considered a plateau option. However, if the plateau lasts too long it will start to die.

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#91

That’s only when you can’t see tho

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#92

I’ve been around since alpha and frankly these posts have happened every few months since duelysts initial release. It’s a good game that was plagued with a ton of power creep for quite some time, and the meta is finally in a healthy place after months of printing overturned cards and broken mechanics.

In that time many of the main players who regularly posted on the forum left. Or stopped interacting with the community all together. There used to be people regularly streaming the game, that’s pretty much gone now. Or rather it’s now a bit different.

It’s silly to say the game is dying because for the most part it’s already pretty dead. I used to only wait about 5 seconds for every match, now sometimes I’m waiting upwards of 2 minutes. The player base isn’t what it used to be, and CPG’s earlier mistakes cost them huge amounts of veteran players.

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#93

Scarzig still streams it. Tournaments should start again though, that was great to watch.

It’s extremely rare I have to wait longer than 20 seconds, maybe you live in a unfortuitous timezone?

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