Thus begins mechaz0r.deck v2.0
Now with literally no opening gambits
Lurking fear decks just got an alternate win condition
Immortal Vanguard - Neutral Deceptibot
Might wanna be cautious what you say cough bosses cough 
Card looks kinda scary since mechazor can be in deck now w/ abyss mech but don’t think it will be.
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Bosses and the actual game are two different entities… but I also don’t know what you’re referencing since I can’t think of any instance where we’ve broken the OG rule 
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can summon the Mechaz0r! you get from Operant ^^
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You’re a genius! This puts out the BAMF himself quicker than what normally happens!
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While that can happen, it takes an incredible amount of resources and some luck. You have to get and play an Operant first. Then you have to get this 4/5 to stick and actually kill a minion. Then you have a 1/3 chance to get it into your hand (2 Operants and 1 Mechazor) if you are running no other mechs.
While stranger things have happened, this does not count as a ‘game plan’ in my opinion. 
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Wasn’t about the OG, but about the tooltips and text…or lack thereof. If I recall correctly, one boss had frenzy, but with the amount of text description for his abilities, it wasn’t included. Could be wrong, but it’s all in good fun anyway
i’ll still try to meme it hard with a mech Maevh deck with only Operant and Deceptibot 
good thing this has a 4/5 body
Well I guess there is more to it than meets the eye…
Easy example of a broken Opening Gambit rule:
- Primus Fist: Opening Gambit: Give a nearby friendly minion +2 Attack this turn.
Can be played without having a target to trigger Opening Gambit? Yes!
- Dagona: Opening Gambit: Devour ANY minion, anywhere.
Can be played without having a target to trigger Opening Gambit? No!
Textual indication of this difference: nowhere.
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That’s not exactly a good example. Yeah, Dagona is definitely an exception, since you can’t play him without having a target. But the failing here isn’t that an Opening Gambit isn’t triggering when it should, it’s that an Opening Gambit is resulting in a minion not being playable.
At least with Deceptibot’s case, the rules implications are pretty straightforward. Opening Gambits never trigger for a minion that enters play unless it was cast from the action bar. Since Deceptibot plainly states the minion is played from the deck, it natrually follows that it would not trigger its Opening Gambit effect if it has one.
Also, @whoshim, duelyst’s terminology never stated that a minion must be played from your hand to be considered ‘summoned.’ Every card that references actively putting a minion in play calls it ‘summoning.’ Even cards that put tokens into play, create a random minion, or replay a dead minion.
Yes, but Sirocco’s first summon means “not from hand summon,” and the second summon is “from hand only”. Two different definitions.
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Fair enough. Sirocco’s text should be updated to reflect that golems not played from the action bar are not counted towards the number of golems he creates.
I’m pretty sure Golems summoned by Keeper of the Vale still counts towards sirocco, so the only Golems it doesn’t track are sirocco’s Skyrock Golems
Edit: Nevermind, I tested in sandbox and Keeper golems do not trigger Sirocco
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what the actual fuck is that nonsense.
this game has some of the worst card text and interactions i’ve ever seen
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Well if that’s the case, I find the text fine as it is. It would take up too much space on the card to say ‘for each other golem you’ve summoned this game not summoned by Sirocco.’
It kinda makes sense anyhow. If you really expected the golems summoned by Sirocco to count towards your next Sirocco, you’ve nuts. That’d be an exponential growth of summoned golems and Sirocco would be way too strong.
“Discoverable interactions”
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non mechazor-based mech tech. nice. weird. but nice.
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heres a thought that someone with sandbox can test
maybe the emphasis is on the word “other” as in “not skyrock”
so if you summon 3 skyrock golems and a dreamshaper from hand then summon sirocco you would only get 1 skyrock from sirocco instead of 4.
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comboing pre-nerf chassis + this would have been a serious headache. I’m thankful for the nerfs.