I am pretty new to this game, so I might not know what I am talking about, but all card games have cards that do not see play. That is just the way it is, there will always be good cards and there will always be bad cards. Balanced video games don’t always make good video games, and that I can say wih certainty.
Honest thoughts of the Game and Suggestions
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My suggestions: don’t change mechs.
Change Variax to 8 mana 8/8 with OG: Your BBS is awesome. It costs 0 this turn.
This is needed for it to have immediate impact, it’s unplayable now.
Change Wanderer to 6 mana 2/2, so summoning it would be a huge tempo loss.
Change Underlord to 7 mana 4/1, 7-8 spells needed, same effect.
Revert NoSE to 5 mana.
Others are fine.
That makes powerlevel more fair between these in comparison. IMO. And also makes other archetypes able to compete, even late game ones.
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And based upon how everyone has been conducting themselves compared to you that first question is very irrelevant.
Your knowledge, based on your arguments, ideas, and suggestions: low
Your intellect, based on your attitude towards others, grammar and punctuation, and legibility of your posts: low
this variax and underlord changes are actually intresting, but hard to swallow when ramped.
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It’s OK when ramped, IMO, it’s not OK when double ramped. But double ramped Variax is a problem even in its current form.
Underlord needs more spells, ramp is not an issue.
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yea well, we take the good with the bad.
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Variax is worth to try out
Change Wanderer gonna do nothing its His Ability and the early drop at 6 mana are the issues.
Change Underlord: i think he sees no plays anymore to slow
NoSE i dont know but we may try.
Trials have only made problems so far and your vague suspicions are not exactly reliable I think we need something more but I’m ready to give it a shot.
NoSE is arguable, but trust me, Underlord is very good and (and that’s worse) uninteractive. With Wanderer nerfed in any way it will surely rise to power.
Speaking of Wanderer, you’re wasting your turn (6 mana turn if unramped) to summon 3/3. That is a huge disadvantage in tempo, which may be hard to recover from for a deck which plays midrange. The +1/+1 buff is still huge, sure, but at least the opponent doesn’t have 7/7 in his face as an immediate threat, so may press the Wanderer player hard.
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the tempo loss on turn six (arguably the most crucial point when gaining tempo given that is the connecting turn between mid to late game) will give wanderer a challenge to overcome, this might be good and will ramp the skill cap on wanderer
i would insert ziran with underlord for a slight nerf.
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I still think Trials needs a revamp.
because Nerf only makes it more viable to specific generals exclusive
Example:
Lyonar: Strategos = Brome
Abyssian: Underlord = maehv
Magmar: Hatefurnace = Starhorn
Vanar: Nemeton = Ilena
i would like to see Trials are good for every General
OX:are good even if it dont see plays.
Nose: are good because its not realy important who using artifacts.
Wanderer:some may get more benefits, but overall its work with any General.
making them worse only limiting them to specific Generals but maybe we are gonna get more Trials which i doubt! and i dont want to being Gender locked
Yes i ask for much but it’s reasoned.
Different variants of Underlord are playable with any Abyssian general, there was a recent discussion if Cass Lord is better than Maehv and known S-ranker moggin took Cass Trial to S-1 I believe.
Furnace is good with both Ragnora and Starhorn, just requires different builds.
Nemeton - ask @snowshot, he perfectly runs Nemeton in Faie in S. Deathsadvocate runs it in Kara to some success.
NoSE is playable with both Sajj and Cyph, it’s a matter of preference.
Lyonar…well, yeah, Brome is an obvious choice here, there’s little reason to run Strategos with other generals, you nailed this.
Majority uses the most obvious choices, that doesn’t mean they are better and that others are unviable.
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If you nerf Underlord it gonna be to late for Cass because she dont produce body on
the board like maehv to survive.
Ragnora struggling with card advantage and if you achieve the goal there will be no minions in your hand left to go. and way to slow
Faie and Kara are bad at protection and rather gonna win by BBS then actually summoning Nemeton.
A big (BIG) mistake, these are 3 diffrent approaches to the nemeton; three approaches to the kinds of nemeton you run.
Kara - big nemeton, you drop token generators and they stick (win by tempo to nemeton).
Ilena - fast nemeton, use cheap tokens while ilena in the front protecting and stalling while fueling yggdra.
Faie - control nemeton (“wall nemeton”, trademarked XD ) meaning you control with walls and few tokens only to blow up the trail with embla or pandora + reflection for massive token generation in one turn.
This is what i find to work best with each general, personally i feel like faie is more suited for the meta regarding nemeton then others because the gameplay does not countered hard unlike normal nemeton decks.
By the time you go for nemeton usually the opponent got nothing to do against it.
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Usually magmar pack enough draw like spelljammer, spikes and blazehound just like a semi aggro deck.
I really don’t think that a well utilized rag deck will go out of cards.
This is quite of a far reach.
Besides rag have a natural target for buffs.
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BTW, don’t see why my vague suspicions are less reliable than your vague suspicions.
Anyway, I’ve done everything I could. Will only stay here for lulz from now on.
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Actually, this topic taught me something. I’m a frequent forum user, so I want to be a moderator.
I’ll pm @yaviey immediately. Let’s see if it goes smoothly 
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Hope she’ll recruit you:)
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I played against this dude and i lost.
To double emp on curve the first time, emp on curve the second.
Both of the times i packed more then lethal for the upcoming turn.
A few words set in steel -
Complaining about meta when you run egg ragnora is well wierd, ripper is part of the problem in this game and need a defining fix.
The first game i used my kara nemeton deck that we built in the nemeton thread.
He needed 2 plasma storm, 2 rebukes, aton of healing and double emp on curve to prevent lethal and to win by tempo.
The second time i played my faie deck and got him hard in a grip, 7 mana gravity + luminous around him quilebeast on board.
Embla + wake in hand.
Droped emp, i saw the next one coming and figured i might be losing my time here.
2-0
We are all losing from time to time, however - i didn’t came in with intentions to win (figured i might face eggnora) i came to see the man as a player and see the reaction to my plays.
You were all right, i was able to set a perfect lethals and get him walking in to every grip that i wanted, sadly - emp is quite much for wall based deck to handle and the running and building while calculating removals is challenging with that i managed to get where i wanted.
I lost to a good card not a good player, and i don’t d
Feel ashame admiting it.
Nothing has changed regarding his statements, we all know a good suggestions when we see them - this is not the case, these are bad, really bad and the person behind them is even worse it seems.
Being rude to the people that trying to help you and hold this place up is well… rude.
I do think i proved a point - he says he can destroy me and yet struggles and needed emp on curve to win.
He can say whatever he want - nemeton got him into hard corner twice and this is exactly how i’ve gotten nemeton into s40.
Despite being meta nemeton in vaible and it shows:)
On this note “beaten and bruised” i’ll send a private to @yaviey i think we all had enough of this.
He pissed me off, seeing the way he treats my friends and me really got on my nerves and drove me overboard to actually try to prove a point (which i did).
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The Story was about you telling me Nemeton are Meta and i told you that people let you win because they dont prepare for you rather for the next 100 battle coming with Mythron Wandere.
and now i just showcase and prove it to you why nemeton can not be meta or popular.
Now you are shiting on a Neutral Card EMP Golem which every Faction have Access to
Its not Honorable Flaming and Bullying my Topic if you didnt Honestly Read it or understand the idea behind but its okay just stop trolling around and ill forgive you ^^.
We all know this is not true.
Beside the fact that nemeton got into top 50 is a proof enough that the card is well, it just need a good player behind.
Emp shuts down wall vanar, that’s the story.
Nothing changed, and you can take your forgiveness somewhere else, i’ll hope this abomination will get closed soon.
And i hope you’ll go away with it.