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Having trouble with Magmar

#9

I am no Lyonar expert, I don’t play the faction. There are definitely people more qualified on this forum to help you out with this. What I can do however, is provide a basic VERY cheap decklist that you should be able to put together.

Most of these cards you will have, and the few you don’t are all common except Ironcliffe Guardian, which are rare but are an autoinclude in all Lyonar decks anyway.

The Skorn should cover your need for AoE, while I tossed out a lot of the one-ofs you had in this deck to boost its consistency.

I would’ve dropped Sword, but the fact that it has a scary body is enough to include it as a lategame minion and will work for you until somewhere in gold.

Modify the deck as you feel fit. If another player gives you advice on the forums, take it over mine, theirs is most likely more reliable anyway.

In fact, you might even wanna toss the tempests and include something else of more use, like Bloodtear Alchemists or Primus Fists.

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#10

interesting build though I lack those Azurite Lion, Suntide Maiden, Sunbloom and Ironcliffe Guardian
Ill sacrifice some monster to build it Thanks
wait is Sunstone Templar and Arclyte Sentinel valuable Lyonar cards?

#11

No, they don’t see play in any meta deck right now, Ironcliffes should be your top priority.

#12

Arclyte is used in some of the cheaper budget decks cause its easy to use and can serve as semi removal, tlhough Primus Fist is better, and no Sunstone Templar is never used.

#13

What do you think of the deck Cass? :stuck_out_tongue:

#14

Yours? Looks pretty solid as far as i can judge, i’d just remove the tempests for primus fists :smiley: :stuck_out_tongue:

and the Maidens for Holy Immolations, but i guess thats way too expensive right now

#15

Yeah, I mentioned the tempest removal at the bottom :3
I intentionally excluded Holy Immo because it was epic and too expensive yeah.

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#16

Oops, sry, didn’t read that too closely :smiley:

Oh yeah and btw @OP, the Lyonar - Magmar Matchup is kinda lopsided in favor of Magmar, try to bait the Egg Morphs out, buff your Ironcliffes above 3 attack with roar to avoid plasma storm, and bank on cards like Jax, and maybe decimate and aegis barrier. I know that these cards are pretty expensive, but they are the best i can think of to tech in vs Magmar (and you already have a jax).
ALSO AVOID MAKANTOR.
I just beat somebody today in DIamond who let me hit a total of 4 Minions + General with a Makantor. I dunno why.

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#17

So might as well sacrifice those 2 monster thanks

ohh umm… Can i still handle growing monsters using that? or dispels would cover it for me? Sorry I haven’t tried dispel before so I have no complete idea how dispel works.

#18

Dispell would get rid of the buffs, keywords and effects on it, like Earth Walker would return to 3/3 and lose grow.
Sun Bloom is an AoE dispell (2x2) and has infinite range.
BEWARE! You CAN dispell your own stuff, so try to avoid it.

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#19

Oh man, I won a game with my SaboSajj deck when the guy wasnt playing around Makantor himself, so I cloned it with Mirage Master and cleared his board

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This is what the board looked like when the game ended. Blindscorch + Zen’rui’d the Silithar Elder :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
He ended up using 2 Earth Spheres, so the game dragged on a lot longer than I was expecting lol.

#20

It is my honest opinion from now on that Mirage master is busted :stuck_out_tongue:
to be real tho, i think it belongs to the kind of card that can be pretty solid but nobody uses them, feelssajman

#21

Dem I didn’t know that disenchanting some monster is this sad
I have disenchanted Eight Gates, Archlyte Sentinel, Artifact Hunter and Time Maelstorm (Draugar Lord would join their ranks but I felt like there is importance to this monster so I didn’t disenchant Draugar Lord)

So far its good though I felt Blistering Skorn is risky. My first opponent is Vanar so I didn’t have a chance to test it against Magmar

Oh yeah what is the difference between a Normal type card and Mystic Card? I have an Orb Weaver and The High Hand Mystic Card though i felt like its just the color that made the difference

#22

Eight Gates, ehh still used in some memedecks, Arclyte Sentinel, fair enough.
Time Maelstrom… why!? Unless you never EVER intend to give Artifact Vetruvian a shot, same for Artifact Hunter. I would disenchant Draugar Lord, but that’s just me.

If by Mystic you mean the one with the rainbow background, those are called Prismatic Cards and the only difference is that it looks pretty, is rarer and disenchants for more spirit.

#23

I would actually argue in favor of DEing everything outside your main faction for the first month or so. Once you have a solid colelction and a couple of competitive decks, you can start building up another faction.

IMHO, trying to go for several factions at once as a f2p player is just going to lead to you rolling around in bronze and not really having fun with the game.

#24

Sorry I didn’t know that Time Maelstorm since I never checked the second vetruvian general
Actually I was first thinking to make Eight Gates stay since I have Spiral Technique and Jade Monk but when I saw that Songhai will depend on spells uhm…
I was thinking of using abyssian (I have Shadowdancer)

Suddenly I realize you’re a Vetruvian player. I love to try the Thrall-like gameplay but like martin said I should focus in one faction first. Do you have tips on playing Vetruvian?

#25

It is a very difficult and quite expensive faction to play. If you intend to play it, you’ll have to stick with it. Not to mention it is currently the weakest faction in the game. I’d wait after Shimzar to really get rolling. I myself am incapable of hitting S with Vet but Diamond is good enough for me right now.

I can be added in game with the IGN Phayze if you want to see sme examples of Vet decks. As you can see the pictures I posted in this thread, the faction can definitely be a ton of fun from time to time.

#26

As a Lyonar 3-Ribboner I approve of that list.

#27

One major tip is to play around them having egg morph. If you have the option to drop an ironcliffe or a silverguard knight(when they both would survive from minions currently on the board), you should try to drop the knight first. If your opponent has to trade in a couple of minions or a little bit of general HP, he is more likely to use his egg morph. Then on the next turn, it would be more safe to play Ironcliffe, as it is less likely that he has another egg morph waiting for you. Most magmar decks run 2 or 3 copies, so you can expect to see at least one every game, two copies for most, and very rarely will they draw all 3.

You should definitely consider posting your decklist though. That is the easiest way for people to give advice. There are a lot of cards that look really good so you add them in your deck, but they are actually not. I really love War Talon(looks super cool) but it doesn’t really make sense as a card. Frenzy and Provoke do not really work well together. You drop a provoke minion to limit your opponents mobility and force them to trade into it. Your minion is likely going to be dead, at the end of the turn, so you won’t get any value out of the frenzy. Also, provoke minions are common targets for dispel, and if you get dispelled you lose all the effects.

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#28

My advice is 3 Maytrdom for Taygete and that Brightmoss Golem is actually decent on a budget, good body for divine bond.