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Duelyst Patch 1.69 – Duelyst

#26

Our cosmetics are the rare exception in online F2P games, in that you can craft them for spirit completely free.

I personally think that you would have made much more money by putting reasonable prices on cosmetic but not letting people buy them with spirit .No one would have complained since it is pretty standard in the industry ,but now it is too late. ( I have a master in business and have wrote thesis on monetization of F2P just so you know)

Right now the system seems to encourage playing very few games and losses are extremely punishing.

100% agree, on my second season I have made top 70 almost by mistake with a sub optimal deck, currently I am top 200 on try hard and the more I play the more I loose rank despite having a 50% win rate. And I can tell I am much better at Duelyst now than I was 3 month ago.

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#27

Keith said around 1 month before Shimzar happens. (In the chat of last week’s roundtable.)

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#28

I know, but Stomposaur said “weeks” in the Discord chat. Which means it might be sooner than a month.

#29

Where our free keys? :c
Edited: Btw, new Lilithe emotes are so SICK! Whole another level of interacting with opponent, no sarcasm rly. Much better then they were

#30

No, I don’t think it was comparable to x2 in value. I don’t really know how to calculate that, but I do know that if I had bought 3 orbs instead of the 2 crates, I would almost always have gotten more spirit (which is also due to the generous drop rates in orbs though).

#31

Suggestion, when you go to the shop, to the General Skin section, hovering over/clicking on the general should show you its animations, so you could decide whether you want it.

Just like hovering over cards in the collection shows you their idle and attack animations.

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#32

2 things:

1-
WOW! WATCH STREAMS LIVE DIRECTLY FROM GAME? THATSSSS SICK! REALLY NICELY DONE! :smiley: (intentional caps disabled)

2-
Not sure i understand Cassyva’s new look … is she some kind of snake now?

Great work guys, keep it coming :smiley:

#33

We’ve had a prototype for a long time but have not yet decided if it’s something we want to release and support.

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#34

Nice patch, the new units look fun. In the future will there be a way for free players to aquire keys for crates on a regular basis besides hidden achievements? e.g getting keys based on your rank at the end of the month. 1 common key for silver, 1 rare for gold, 1 epic for diamond etc

#35

considering the fact some people add you to find out when you are streaming that maybe a useful feature.

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#36

We’re aware of the situation but it won’t be available for Patch 1.69. Rest assured we are working on it.

#37

Congrats on this patch-- the new features look great! As someone starting their first dev job and getting familiar with a release schedule, I feel like I finally understand why all those ‘simple’ features I want on my favorite games don’t ‘just get added now.’

Re: Feedback regarding the mystery crates, I think the biggest issue has already been mentioned- how bad getting a duplicate emote feels. On that note, part of the problem is most of us started with half the emotes, so we were likely to get duplicates. To compare to spirit orbs for a moment- I bought 80$ when they were first released because I had very few cards in my collections, and was unlikely to get duplicates. Now, I have most of a collection so I’d never spend more money on orbs because they give me little value (Shim’zar-specific orbs will change that!). New players now won’t have any emotes, so the mystery crates will work fine for them-- with regards to duplicates.

That’s not the only issue I have with the current system though. I find it disappointing how generic the cosmetic packs are. I’d much much much rather discrete ‘Emote,’ ‘Prismatic,’ and ‘Profile’ packs, or some other system the categorizes them, maybe by faction or theme. That way I could be incentivized to open crates of particular interest to me. The duplicate issue notwithstanding, different cosmetics are of different value to different people. I find the profile images needless since I already have one I really like, and I don’t care for the prismatic cards at all, but the new emotes I find very cute. As it is, even if I were a new player I wouldn’t be motivated to open mystery crates because the majority of the cosmetics in it I don’t want.

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#38

Yes, great patch. Time to break out the wallet for dem alt. general accessories…

#39

Is it possible to get Prismatic Mark 2 Generals?

#40

I love you, Counterplay, but please, please, please, chill with the cosmetic prices a little bit. 8 bucks for a general skin seems a bit excessive, in my opinion. And emotes are overpriced as hell. I do not know what stats you are basing your pricing on, but I genuinely believe you can get more money by knocking down those prices. Considering the game has an international following, it can be difficult for some people in various regions to afford those. Plus, I would think it is easier for a person to just impulse-buy an emote for a buck, as opposed to 2 bucks.
I am no financial expert, so I might be completely wrong here, but I just think the cosmetics cost too much for the Counterplay’s own good.
P.S. And yes, I am totally crying since I can’t afford them. Goddamn Russia, stop ruining your relationships with all of the world, goddamit, I want my skins in vidyagames.

#41

Hey Emil! I finnally mannaged to hook my ppals on thi game all over again, the first time they gave up cause there was no spectate mode and we couldn’t have fun watching each other, will the spectator mode be coming soon?

Otherwise, great patch, I have nothing to complain about, that’s saying a lot.
MarkII generals look so cool!

#42

Lots of good points made here. If I may interject one…

I think it’s very important that spirit continue to be usable for cosmetics. There needs to be an outlet for players who accumulate cards faster than they can use them. This game is quite generous when it comes to card drops, which is part of what attracts new players (it is true for me and others have told me so). That means experienced players will have more spirit than they can reasonably use and they need something to spend it on.

Cosmetic embellishments are exactly the right thing for this, a way of showing off one’s veteran status without affecting gameplay. Similarly, allowing their purchase for cash helps fund development without creating imbalances.

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#43

wait, no balance change?
I heard Devs would balance change End-Season patch
I’m sad now :frowning:

#44

Almost no one accumulates cards faster than you can use them. I’ve spent like $150, play daily for 6 months, and still don’t have everything

#45

If you’re going for pure cheese (cloning the metadecks and nothing else), the vast majority of the cards are cards you’ll never use, thus accumulating those cards is, definitionally, accumulating them faster than you can use them.

Same logic applies to single-faction fans, and probably a few fringe groups I’m not aware of. The point is, not everyone is a completionist, and there’s a lot of flex to the concept of “using them.”