Alright, folks, appreciate the input, keep it coming. Like @whyb0t said, the goal isn’t really to emulate chess. I want, boiling it down, a game of Duelyst that isn’t based on instant value. Duelyst as it’s actually played is mostly about instant value. I mean, look at the worldcore golem, the swarmking scarab, Grandmaster Nosh-Rak, Grandmaster Kraigon. They all look godlike on paper, but they generally don’t get played because they don’t generate instant value. Look at all the cards considered staples. Virtually all of them generate a lot of instant value.
So what I’m really getting at here is Duelyst with a lot less instant value, and also with fairly little infinite value, which is why kolossus didn’t make it in even though grimrock did. Because without absolute removal, one of the most common types of instant value card, infinite value cards would be the next thing to take the game over. I mean, of the two games I played with Whybot, I won one because of a huge grimrock, and threatened to win the other with…a less-huge-but-big-enough-to-get-the-job-done grimrock.
Moving on from that…@fr0stfyre1, I’d be willing to try your Chess with Sajj, although I’m somewhat worried that ranged and blast will prove too powerful. I guess testing would be in order. I also feel that only including basics is too limiting to your design space.
Oh, and I checked, and analogical is a word. It means having to do with an analogy or analogies. While we’re at it, vomitous and cinderous are also words. Nothing to do with anything, I just like them. (I’m a cool and edgy hipster because I started saying those words before checking to see if they were in the dictionary. In unrelated news, there’s a vile and untrue rumor I’m an ego-stroking wordophile.)
What does everyone think of the mentioned idea of making a list of Fair Duelyst cards that can be used to build decks as you see fit, rather than a single specific list to be played against itself?
Also, new iteration of Chess with Starhorn in the topic header very shortly after this post hits, everyone check it out.
One last thing, I highly encourage everyone to try playing this or something very like this with your friends, the others on the forum, me, anyone you can get to put up with it. I’d love more feedback on what people’s play experiences are.
