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Do you think Kara BBS and Saberspine tiger is a balanced interaction?

The poor nail tho

Not necessarily. Warbeast, Revenant, and Tiger are all infamous for what they can do with Rush. The ability to both move and attack on the turn it’s played is incredibly powerful, more so than many other abilities. Personally speaking, I vote for the idea to make it an ā€˜or’ option. A minion with Rush can either move OR attack when it’s played. So you have to choose between damage or positioning.

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It’s so sad when we are almost knocking the Kara, and suddenly she goes not 1 but 2 Tigers with 7/6!

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CP would have to rework the Ranged keyword also when touching Rush the way you want. A rushed Tiger (Makantor, Elu) is the only way to get rid of ranged minions without dispel. And dispel is really needed for other things - especially when you look at the cards that come with Shimzar (Silverguard Knights from Sky Phalanx, Soboros Death Touch, Beastmaster, Visionar).

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I’ve just lost to a 2x kara-buffed-tigers in the same round, so in perfect anger and saltiness I can agree on nerfing this combo to the ground. Thanks sirs.

FeelsSajjMan.
I’ve lost to a Kara that had 2 Zenruis one after the other. I agree, NERF HER!

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I have been tilted by match after match where I play flawlessly, get kara down to lower health in the late game, and then get slammed by two tigers that have been hanging out in her hand since the opening draw. I get that holding two cards that long would limit options for her, but having to deal with all the provoke, disenchant, and transform it gets very tiring. Sit back and try range?..here comes disenchant and face with bbs spam. Go face?..provoke and bbs spam. Mirror match?..pray to RNG gods…double bbs spam. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Sure, I could tech in stuff all day and lose to every other faction, live and die a slave to the meta, or ragequit like a three-year old. I’m not a fan of being forced into a corner when deck building. I’d rather stick to my pretentious attitude toward netdecking, but that’s just me.

I have only been successful in winning matches against kara where I went Super-agro-swarm-face, but I don’t find any challenge or fun in that.

I guess I might be crazy but winning in 4 turns just for the sake of winning does not appeal to me as much as a strategy-heavy battle. That’s why I fell in love with this game!

Of course, this is all could be a moot issue when the expansion drops. We can bitch about it until we’re all blue in the face, but it won’t help anyone to wallow in that much negativity. I’ll try to enjoy my little salt pile. :grin:

tl:dr Kara’s bbs is annoying but we’ll see what happens in a few weeks.

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That honestly sounds fair. Ranged minions pay for their safety with subpar stats already. Right now, Rush is basically a counter to everything. Ranged? Rush it. Taunt? Rush it. Why use Flying when Rush does the job better in 90% of all situations?

Hell, now that I thought about it, if anything Flying should be the counter to ranged. Something that can attack anything should be vulnerable to something that can move anywhere.

Maybe you’re right with flying. But then (just my taste) every faction needs a cheap flying minion…


2 Mana 2/2, Flying, Death Watch: If this minion kills a minion with the Ranged keyword it dies.

Edit: card text

I don’t think Rush is that big of a problem. It’s very strong, but so far is in manageable quantities. I don’t think there should be a ā€œdeck’s worthā€ of Rush minions, but 1-2 isn’t bad.

I think Kara’s BBS should limited to Vanar faction minions. This gives players serious pause before running a Tiger (which they can still buff with Frostfire). It also encourages faction flavor. The devs can then choose in future to give Vanar a Rush minion (probably for higher cost than 3). Kara will still have her revolving door 4/3 Snow Chasers and with the new Vespyrs coming out, people will be encouraged to play them. This also leaves Tiger alone for Lyonar, etc. where it isn’t nearly as broken.

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Kara’s BBS should either apply to one minion at a time, only Vanar faction minions, or only be applicable once on any minion. And to be honest I’m disappointed in people who point out unfair interactions in other games as if that justifies this. It is silly to suggest that just because other games suck, this game should suck too.

People still complain about Kara’s BBS in the new patch? Swear to god you guys are doing this for the lols at this point rather than actually believing what you’re saying.

Well I still believe kara/BBS is the best interaction in the game, just people prefer to play the exiting new decks than the old boring tiger buff , which was already extremely boring even back in the days

In fact The Scientist still play kara ^^.

ā€œGive all non-rush minions in your hand +1/+1ā€.

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