I could take Grimes out as yea he is mostly a meme. But its a strong enough card that it occasionally shows up in the tournament scene with Dying Wish Abyss, or Magmar and swings games.
I whole hardheartedly would love to ban 8gs or Mantra on principal but they are not really problems right now nor they overpowered (Just extremely toxic). Where as most folks agree Spear and Jux are absolute powerhouses that push things over the edge.
Ramp in general is not a problem, but Abjucator has been a part of almost every degenerate uninteractive deck in the games history. Hitting it will bring Mantra/Gates down to a reasonable level, and will prevent many other abuses and ridiculous highrolls both now and in the future.
Yea if sand is addressed Kha can stay. But sand is actually cool and has counterplay where as Kha does not. But I would be happy as long as one or the other got addressed.
I am generally against banning reactive cards or faction staples. Rebuke is not causing any problems, people just like to hate on it. And with Hatches and Decimus gone we should have already removed the problematic parts of magmar, no need to kick them while their down and go after their core kit. But it could be added to the voting page if folks felt strongly about.
Well there was not much to talk about when it comes to the implementation. I think it should happen, most people are very unhappy with the state of the game. So I threw this out to try and gain some traction and gather a committee.
The rest of it is gathering a list of cards from the community and discussing said cards so that if this takes off and I get a committee put together we can then get to the voting. The whole community is getting involved in putting together the list of cards which I have been adding as they come. Meanwhile the most experienced, respected, and notable players would form the committee, as they would actually have the experience to make educated decisions about the list the community put together.
This is specifically why the community gets input by forming the list, but only the experienced committee actually votes. And while stuff like adjudicator might get used in harmless decks, it has been part of almost every single degenerate deck in duelyst history. And again this won’t really effect the causal player regardless.
Obviously I want my two cents heard, and its only fair I get things started, obviously not everyone would aggree with me, and there is a chance that I might get this whole thing to happen and nothing I wanted changed would actually get voted on. But without content, patches, or Dev support, I firmly believe we need to do something.
The whole point is to try and affect the competitive scene of the game in a positive way, and switch up the both imbalanced and stagnated meta-game, and hopefully it will also gain traction with the casual players. But just like any game people can choose to ignore the competitive rules and play casually, this would not effect those people at all. If you want to be competitive you should cooperate with the community, and participate in actually trying to achieve a balanced game.
You say imposing this would be fatal, I say doing nothing would be more fatal. Maybe this is a fools errand and a hopeless effort, but I have been top of the ladder for many years now, and I have nearly quit completely at this point as have many others. My love for the game is why I am trying to do something.
Ouch man. I am trying to make a difference and help revitalize/save the game. Obviously I am going to argue for my ideas and put them forth, but this is primarily about trying to start a movement, and creating a democratic committee that may very well completely disagree with me and that’s fine. It takes a lot of different perspectives to make such a thing happen, it really can not just be from one person.
Its pretty demoralizing having people just talk the idea down, and I am quickly running out of morale, but hey at least I tried to make a difference.
Obviously we have some pretty drastically different opinions on what needs to go here. And while I agree removing Wanderers most disgusting highrolls would go a long way to making it balanced. But wether it is balanced or not, I maintain the stance that it has choked the meta for a long time and for the game to breathe it needs to go, and it is still one of the most hated cards around despite the small camp of people that do not mind it. If it stayed a big part of the meta myself and many others would likely give up on the game, many already have.
That being said if it was at least taken down a peg it would certainly help. It is important to have our different views here. I will go ahead and add the Flash/Darkfire, for wanderer specifically, to the list in the event Wanderer its self did not get banned outright.