DeathsAdvocate’s Master Thread: Immortal Vanguard


#21

@deathsadvocate Fair enough.

@phoenixtoasches Almost every deck I make has seven turn-one plays, two three-ofs and a one-of. The Kaido assassin is the one-of. I don’t want to sink an eighth deckslot into ensuring a good first turn, and only six gives me too-high odds for my taste of getting messed over.

Edit:

So my assassin is killing you? I mean, that’s kind of what assassins do, I’m not really seeing the problem here.


#22

OMG! The Faie Final Destination Deck is really really good and difficult for the other player to respond the value that give you the ramp is very strong!!


#23

I have done a ton of updating the last couple weeks, and today I added a whole bunch of new decks: ReliQ Maev, Miss Styx Lillith, Necromancy Lillith, Dishonrable Cass, The Dentist Starhorn, Mech Apex Starhorn, Meme of Electric Sheep Starhorn, Faie Wallodrive, Kara Overclock.

And you may have missed: Sexy Lizard Vaath, Apex Preadtor Vaath, Double Trouble Faie, VVall Kara, and Aggressive Midrange Ragnora.

I have been busy lately, and it was easier to just update this, rather then to try and slowly post other threads. Ive been showing off most of these on my stream lately so I don’t feel they really need their own threads anyways.


#24

I think you have the wrong picture and link to the ReliQ Meahv Deck. The text and the shown deck dont add up…


#25

Whoops, thanks for noticing, should be fixed now.


#26

I have done a ton of updating the last couple weeks, and today I added a whole bunch of new decks: Brome Bond, Baby Teeth and QuillRage Ragnora, and I finally filled in his spot and added four Ciphyron decks.

And you may have missed: Q spikes Starhorn, San Andreas Zirix, and Bond Argeon.

I have been busy lately, and it was easier to just update this, rather then to try and slowly post other threads. I’ve been showing off most of these on my stream lately so I don’t feel they really need their own threads anyways.


#27

Hey, wanted to ask a quick question. Barring a specific reason not to run them, like alabaster titan, do you consider one-mana cantrips (aegis barrier, gotatsu, Scion’s first wish, sphere of darkness) mandatory three-ofs?


#28

Sphere and Gotatsu, absolutely should be 3x, no question. First wish is a good 90% of the time, but sometimes there is a reason to skip. Aegis is amazing but you do need some good targets for it to be worth it.

Cards that cycle are really powerful regardless of mana cost. Sometimes a cards effect isnt good enough to include, like aerial rift, and of course there are exceptions but in general cycles are great and most of them make most decks better most of the time.


#29

So cold beer, I mean, frigid corona is also an auto-three-of, more or less? And what about replicants? Sun wisps? Excuse me for picking your brain, but I currently consider you the go-to deck guy, for what that’s worth to you. Your stuff has influenced what I build to a certain degree, and in particular I netdeck your Sexy Lizard down to the card under the name VaathBreaksYourFace when I get the Magmar Challenger quest. No spaces in the name because it doesn’t fit in the Duelyst nameslot.


#30

Corona is simmilar to wish, it fits about 90% of the time.

I personally adore replicant and sunwisp allthough many people don’t. I will much sooner include those when a deck feels a touch light on card advantage then I would something like Spell Jammer since feeding cards outside of aggro is bad, or something like soujner who is without a gaurentee on draw. They are not auto included but if you have spare room or need just a tiny bit of card advantage to round out a curve they are perfect.


#31

Except Gotatsu isn’t core in anything barring maybe Mantra lists. Most Songhai lists cut the card completely. Cantrip? Sort of. First Wish or Sphere though, this is not.


#32

Cantrip is an MTG term meaning a 1/0 cost spell that draws a card.

I do think Gotasu is worth it, at least as often as first wish is, which is most of the time. Ping that cycles is exceptionally good.


#33

If using MtG terminology (20+ year vet), Gotatsu is more akin to a Slowtrip as it’s a poor topdeck and doesn’t actually improve your draw in any way the turn you use it.

For a card that’s 90% worth it, it sure as hell isn’t in 50% of Songhai lists, and I’ll admit to being biased to not favoring the card but comparable to First Wish or Sphere it is not and neither is it as universally applicable, both due to it’s casting restriction and end of turn draw. They are simply not cut from the same cloth and the card is too low value to include in a host of decks, primary but not entirely being restricted to Spell based lists.

Neither Aggro nor Midrange wants this card, while it has applications in Combo simply by virtue of not having much else in the way of draw anyway.