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Day 1 of Let's Compare: Peacekeeper vs Excelcious

#1

Hello folks and welcome to a brand new thread series called Let’s Compare where we take a look at some of Duelyst’s cards and compare them to each other in terms of their! In todays session, we’ll be taking a look at two of Lyonar’s most…impactful cards to date! Namely, I wouldn’t have to type this if you read the title, Peacekeeper and Excelcious.

##Peacekeeper

Summary

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As a part of the Ancient Bonds card set, Peacekeeper brings with it Lyonar’s signature impactful provokes alongside a whole slew of keyword abilities and Golem synergy. Clad in classic Lyonar blue and gold, Peacekeeper’s dual shield style is highly reminiscent of the Sunforge armed forces. Despite it’s ability to airdrop onto nearly any part of the battle field and it’s tendency to float from place to place to place, it’s high durability armor prevents it from simply flying through the battlefield at the benefit of resisting the first hit it takes (warranty past the first hit not included). Blaze through the battlefield with Peacekeeper today!

Pros:

[details=Summary]* It has Airdrop enabling you to drop it on any unoccupied space

  • It has immediate value given it’s a provoking FORCEFIELD minion.
  • Forcefield makes it harder to kill
  • Celerity and frenzy enable it to take out large swaths of enemy forces without sacrificing mobility
  • It costs 7 mana so you can still combo an Aegis barrier or sunbloom or whatever else you want with it.
  • It’s a Golem so it has access to golem synergies (you can get it out earlier using Golem Metallurigst)[/details]

Cons:

[details=Summary]* It’s a 7 mana minion so most of your turn will be that (no Div Bonding this sucker until next turn)

  • Without Aegis Barrier it’s susceptible to spells
  • It only has five health so once the forcefield is out (or if it gets dispelled) then that’s a relatively easy kill
    [/details]

##Excelcious

Summary

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What’s better than a Giant Sword? A Giant Sword that you can swing TWO TIMES (and also gets bigger when you heal something, but whatever). Lyonar military tactics deem that “Bigger is Better” and Excelcious definitely suits that part! Long flowing hair, a pretty swole bod, AND a GIANT SWORD, there’s no problem that Excelcious can’t solve! Taxes hitting you pretty hard? HIT IT WITH A SWORD! Term paper due tomorrow? HIT IT WITH A SWORD! Can’t draw a card? Well you’re shit out of luck. Anyways, Excelcious makes sure that there’s NOTHING standing between you and victory in the battlefield (unless you didn’t heal enough, then that just sucks)!

Pros:

[details=Summary]* Immediate value upon play b/c of his provoke

  • Can get to ungodly stats due to consistent healing
  • Still gets buffed even after played so you can buff him up like crazy
  • Can still apply Aegis barrier if played at 9 mana
  • Has celerity and provoke so you’re almost guaranteed a large amount of damage
  • OG stats are 6/6 so even if unbuffed, he can be 12 damage
  • Fun to play[/details]

Cons:

[details=Summary]* He costs 8 mana with no way to get him for cheaper

  • If dispelled he would be a 6/6 for 8
  • Requires a healing deck to get him to insane amounts of value
    [/details]

So, what do you think? Did I miss anything? Feel free to comment down below and don’t forget to place a vote in the poll down below on who YOU think is better!

  • Excelcious
  • Peacekeeper

0 voters

God this takes more out of me than it should

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#2

Peacekeeper is 1 mana less for the same kind of
"if unanswered Then win"
Big minion that excelcious is
But you dont need the heals set up
And you can squeeze it out earlier with metallurgist.

#3

Do you plan, on further threads, to compare cards that are actually played ? :wink:

#4

The two things that make Peacekeeper much, much better than Excelsious is that 1. It can be played for 6 mana with Golem Metallurgist and 2. it doesn’t require heals to reach its full potential, and you can play Argeon instead of Zi’ran. The only downside to Peacekeeper is that it might not kill the opponent if it survives a turn while Excelsious almost always will in a Healyonar deck.

#5

Ah the poll is for ‘better’… I would say that Peacekeeper is better, but I like Excelcious more myself.

‘Better’? Well, in my experience Excelcious, but that’s a very subjective experience.

I have won many times with Excelcious.

I have never even attacked successfully once with a Peacekeeper, iirc.

Doesn’t matter that I played with Excelcious decks way more than with Peacekeeper in my decks, doesn’t matter that I know it can go well with Peacekeeper any time soon, since that time isn’t now and now Peacekeeper feels tainted.

I’ll be publicly disobedient and vote Excelcious even though objectively the other one is better imo.

I mean, the YOU is boldfaced… must mean he wants my subjective experience, right?

(yeah trying to lure thedandygiraffe back so he can reply to my pm)

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#6

No :wink:

#7

Ok, too bad, maybe I’ll join on the “Arcane Devorer” vs. “Astral Crusader” one :smile:

#8

Sadly that’s not poll-worthy.

Astral Crusader is just simply worse. Whatever you put it up against.

Maybe this expansion will change that eh?

‘Every card you replace is put into your hand at the end of your turn’.

#9

The combo of arcane devourer with blood taura is a meme worth its own deck for boss battles

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#10

Lul

#11

… Is this calling me a dick?

You do know ‘Lul’ means ‘Cock’ in my language, right?

And I do not mean the male chicken.

What is this…

Also, you obviously haven’t followed the subjective/objective dialogue…

#12

Peacekeeper is better because you can get it from Juggernaut to win the game.

#13

When making a comparison you only need to show the differences.
Mentioning Aegis barrier is redundant.

How dare you call this a con for Excelcious but not mention Peacekeeper is ONLY a 5/5 for 7 if dispelled. Need to keep things fair.
(Opinion from a totally unbiased Excelcious loving Ziran player :wink:.)

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#14

I got tired of typing something that should be obvious for pretty much any ability reliant minion…what? Even I get tired :coffee:

#15

I was going to do a Venn diagram, but sleep happened. And then work

#16

Nah, I just found the statement funny. I understand what you mean, carry on.

Anyways, In my experience playing against them, Excelsious is more dangerous. Using the face to clear a 5 attack minion isn’t nearly as bad as trying to remove a 16/16 minion, and sometimes is easy enough to clear with a ping + two minions. What pulls it ahead in my opinion is the reduced opportunity cost, and synergy it has with a few other minions.

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#17

Good to know. You said it well.

#18

I personally think Excelcious should be 7 mana and Peacekeeper should be 8 mana. :neutral_face:

#19

It’s emotionally annoying because the word is an often-used swear word to call someone here.

So seeing such a ‘loaded’ word with zero context after a quote of yours immediately evokes an emotional response.

Later your rational mind catches up, which is why I was asking and confused as I indeed thought it wasn’t known as meant something else… but still, you’re already in that emotional state.

As for assuming everyone knows every language… I don’t know who made you believe someone could have such a preposterous assumption.

In general one should be prudent with assumptions anyhow, they’re mother of all screw-ups.

#20

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