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Curious Matchmaking

So, I’m playing the ladder right now. Gold 9 currently. What I noticed is that I too often find myself playing against diamond players, which is odd. More importantly, I even faced several S-rankers from higher ranks during this month.

Not that I’m pissed off or whatever, but I’m curious. Is it a bug or the reason behind these happennings is the fact that we have unranked mode? Does anyone else have similar experience?

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Same experience here. I’m playing in S-Rank and I have played against Gold players multiple times now. And even then the queue times are regularly above 1:30. I think there just aren’t that many players around and the queue algorithm seems to prefer short queue times over balanced matchmaking.

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I personally also prefer short queues over balanced matchmaking, but I’m worried about newer players then.

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I wouldn’t be too worried about newer players. Every Frostfire game I’ve had so far, has been against players with no ribbons. I’m assuming that quite a few people have moved over to the Frostfire game mode, which would explain the matchmaking for ranked.

Since I started playing Duelyst I got occasionally matches with players from higher and lower, divisions, which is odd and kinda unfair in my opinion. Thanks for bringing it up!

It is OK, when you are at the edge of a given division. For example, it’s OK to be matched by Diamond 5 if you’re Gold 6, and it’s always been like this. What I brough up is that only recently it became worse.

Yeah, perhaps makes somehow sense at the edge of the division, as you say, and maybe there’s not enough S-rankers atm so Diamond and Gold players both get to face them. I start thinking though that maybe would be just better if different divisions wouldn’t face each other at all in ranked games. If the logic that a rank-based game follows normally is: “you win because you showed more skills than the other players (of course there’s luck and random factors, but theoretically they’re secondary) so you get to play with those at your same level”, then I don’t see why Duelyst also shouldn’t have this kind of system.

I guess we underestimated the number lf people who wanted a casual mode. Seems everyone is there and the competitive ladder is a little abandoned.

Answering to your question, I did play against s-rankers as well (I’m gold 7 or smth)

Ribbons don’t show in frostfire mode, same as in Gauntlet. When i play Frostfire it doesn’t show my ribbons either.

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Except I’ve queued into S1 while being gold 6, and this was almost a year ago.

That we have less players is true, but matchmaking has always been funky.

But it does show in the replay history (as well as their rank tier).

Edit: just looked through all my Frostfire matches. Had 7 different opponents, 6 were bronze with no ribbons and 1 was S-Rank with ribbons in every faction.

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It is funky because the poor guys at S-rank are small in number, hence it is harder to find balanced matches for them. The problem is not Gold, but S-rank, though I do agree that it’s a bit weird and it does not seem unsolvable as long as the player base is healthy enough…

yfw you read a message that reminds you there’s a Ladder :slight_smile:
(tbh, I’ve played a couple of matches on Ladder because I accidentally clicked it by habit and the absence of Xmas chest made me realize)

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I fear people realized doing dailies is better than getting the ladder monthly reward…

So why not just have fun with some non-competitive decks

Either they’ll “take back” unranked, add prizes in monthly or lower daily missions gold.

As it stands i hope they take back unranked.
(But i have no data to say “the numbers are decreasing in ti ti di ti tidi titarititouuuu” and all that so i may be really wrong)

Edit: “decks”

Exactly, the point of playing Unranked isn’t the dailies (at least not to me) it’s the pleasure to play out of the meta, versus (most of the time) non-meta decks. It gives a welcomed nice breath :slight_smile:
Quest and Gold is just a small bonus.

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As much as i would like unranked to stay, i don’t think the playerbase, especially on the higher end of the ladder, is big enough to deal with it. The amount of Goldplayers i had to face this season while in Diamond is unreal. It’s like all the Diamond/S-rank players are toying around in Frostfire -.-

Then again, i guess if low ranked players have enough of getting paired against high ranked ones they can just go and play frostfire… i wonder which one is preferable? Getting paired against high rank players more often in ranked but have unranked mode, or not having unranked mode but therefore a better matchmaking in ranked?

I just checked and interesting enough I played against several Bronze players in Frostfire mode. I don’t know exactly why because Bronze is unranked.

Maybe they like the presents? Maybe it just feels different?

Well, I would play it too, even if I were bronze. It’s a limited time event after all.

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