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Card of the Day April 13, 2017 - Toime Maelstrom

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Today’s Card of the Day is in honor to the bitterweeet thing known as: Procrastination!

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As a little tidbit, Time Maelstrom was one of the reasons why I chose to main Vetruvian. While I think that it’s nerf was well deserved I still have some gripes with some of its current details :angry:. Here’re your questions:

1.) In its pre nerf-state (I’ll post an image of it), how do you think it would do in today’s meta? Would it be a good thing or would It add onto the frustrating condition of todays Vanar/magmar heavy ladder?
2.) Does it deserve to be a legendary with it’s current effect? If not, what rarity should it be?
3.) Does this fit with vetruvian both Themaically and mechanically? Why or why not?

Here’s the pre-nerf version:

Summary

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#2

Man, old Maelstrom was the tits. Easily my favourite card back in the day, and I dont main Vet. It doesnt feel that good to play against, but honestly neither does Enfeeble, Revenant and others.

  1. Im not sure how balanced it would be but I would love to see it come back. Honestly, (most times) its effect is comparable to Nosh-Rack’s, but more mana and no body. Please CPG bring it back :heart_eyes:

  2. Maybe, idk

  3. It does fit with Vet nicely IMO. It has the obvious “Time Control” feel (though old one did it much better), synergy with artifacts, so yea looks like a Vet card to me.

#3
  1. Nosh-Rak exist, and two turns means that it’s maximized at double damage to face. I don’t think this’d see any play with the old effect.
  2. It might get toned down, but please don’t, I got 3 of these from orbs.
  3. It does fit, regarding that Vet plays around sands and time itself.
#4

1.) Nosh-Rak is basically a better version. You can’t move as far, but if you somehow don’t get lethal you now have a 14 damage unblockable threat from anywhere on the map. That said, win cons where you do absurd amounts of damage with no counterplay are the least interesting things in the game. Maelstrom and Nosh-Rak are dangerously close to this–the only recourse is to clear Vet’s board every turn. Also, since the card requires no set-up beyond what you would be doing anyway, it’s not like you sacrifice anything earlier on in exchange for this power. It would not be able to compete with the current meta due to being 9 mana, but it wouldn’t really be more interesting either.

2.) It may be legendary tier for Sajj, but she doesn’t have the power to really make it shine consistently.

3.) It fits both thematically and mechanically. Usually, though, it’s better to ignore themes and mechanics in order to use instant effects.

#5

0. Maelstorm is the exact opposite of procrastination.

#6

Where’s this 14 dmg from :thinking:

#7

I’m guessing ankh double hexblade auroras tears? potentially sand sisters?

#8

  1. It would be far too strong. I feel like what most people are forgetting is that what broke Time Maelstrom was the ability to chain them. It was essentially if you let Vet have anything on 9 mana you would get double Time Maelstrom and most likely just die. It’s not like Nosh- Rak where if you have a reasonable board you can KO your opponent. If you had any board and it didn’t necessarily have to be near your opponent to win. In today’s meta game I think that it would give Control and Arcanyst Vanar a run for their money but preform poorly against Midrange Mars fast pace gameplay. Overall it would probably put vet at the top of the meta along with Magmar and Vanar.

  2. Legendaries always tend to be fairly niche effects. It’s still a card for the janky artifact Otk deck so it’s most definetly a niche card.

  3. I know Vet is supposed to be able to control time, but I’ve never really felt it really fit. It’s the only card that alludes to time control and to me it was always a little out of place thematically. Mechanically, it’s a little weird as well. In other games similar cards tend to belong to the magey combo classes. But in Duelyst the gain an extra turn card belongs to the board focused faction. Just always thought it was a bit weird.

#9

I misremembered his stats. I only got to see him like twice before Faie/Vaath took over the whole meta.

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#10

There was three months between RoTBB and AB

#11

Yes, but I was absent from before the first expansion until about a week before AB.

#12

  1. I wasn’t around at the time of Maelstroms former glory, it does sound fun to use but I can see why it would be overpowered. It would probably make Vet a top tier faction again considering Nosh-Rak exists now to further bolster its power.

  2. TBH when I was first looking at Vet’s cards in the collection I thought that this along with Scion’s third wish were the worst Legendary spells I ever saw (I have since changed my opinion on this matter, although I still think they seem a bit poor for legendaries). Later I learned that both were nerfed versions of previously overpowered cards, which explained why they are legendaries.

  3. I guess it does fit with their time control theme.

#13

  1. Maybe the pre-nerfed time maelstrom should be obtainable through some type of “quest” much like that HS mage card that lets you take an extra turn (although 9 mana would make it slow)… so what if you got it from another minion? something similar to sphyx however that would make it a completly different card.

  2. I belive the card is balanced and strong and deserves the legendary tag. No need to change that.

  3. Umm I think so. Perhaps the Vetruvian faction has technology advanced enough to travel back in time.

#14

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