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Bounded Lifeforce - Why I can't play this card. [Suggestion]

#12

Best explanation I found was on Grammarist:

“Bound vs. bounded
The verb bind makes bound in the past tense and as a past participle. So, for example, if you tied together two things this morning, you bound them together, and the two things were then bound together. Bounded is the past tense and past participle of the verb bound, which has two main definitions: (1) to confine or serve as the boundary of, and (2) to leap or spring. For example, an island is bounded on all sides by water, and somewhere a rabbit bounded out of a bush this morning.”

I learned something today.

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#13

It already does make sense. Your lifeforce has been bounded – that is, had its boundaries set – at 10/10.

“Bound Lifeforce” would be grammatical but make less sense for what the card does.

#14

As a native English speaker I can tell you that the past participle of BIND is BOUND. Not BOUNDED.

Also, as a native English speaker I can tell you that ‘bounded’ is at worst nonsensical in this context and at best confusing.

I understand that in mathematics BOUNDED refers to limits being placed upon something, and yes if you take that stance then it makes sense because it limits you to 10/10, but it just SOUNDS SO BAD! Lol!

If you aren’t native or lack an ear for the language, it might escape you but it just sounds so wrong.

#15

Unbound Lifeforce would be a cooler name by far :slight_smile:

#16

You haven’t read @d0k’s reply? He explains it so that it should be clear to you what it means and that it is in fact grammatically correct.
The verb is to bound, not to bind.

#17

The verb being used here is “bound”, not “bind”, as @Aeruniel said. It refers to the reduction in your max health that is the “cost” of getting the +8 attack.

As a native English speaker for probably much longer than you, as well as a professional writer, it makes perfect sense to me. Never once did it ever occur to me that it meant anything other than what it sounds like: the past tense of “bound”. Likewise, I have never heard anyone else ever complain about this before, and most players of this game are native English speakers.

It’s pretty normal, I think, for certain words to just “seem wrong” to our brains even when they are fine. It happens to me on occasion. I think this one is on you buddy. :slight_smile:

With only the small disadvantage of actually meaning the exact opposite of their intentions. :slight_smile:

PS. Google “bounded down the stairs” for another use of “bound”.

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#18

Math police is my favourite police

#19

As a professional writing tutor, I must admit that this topic has left me deeply unsettled…haha. While @d0k makes a great point, I struggle with the net connotation: ‘limited, boundary-ed lifeforce’. For a spell that appears to signify an unleashing (2 → 10) as opposed to a limiting, I’d find ‘Boundless’ much more fitting. Perhaps a rename altogether: ‘Channeled’, ‘Apex’, ‘Unburdened’.

#20

I was curious, so I checked, and there is lore for this card. Read it, and I think the name will make more sense.

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#21

Grammar police reporting for duty!

That should be “MATH POLICE REPORTING FOR DUTY!”

(Sorry, couldn’t resist. :smiley: )

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#22

We can all throw our professional qualifications around but it doesn’t make you any more right than it makes me.

If bounded is the past tense of bound, then how does that make sense in relation to the card?

A professional writer but not a very good reader it seems, see my original post for the exact example that you have made in your closing sentence.
It seems everyone is getting confused with the word BIND and BOUND.

I understand that ‘bounded’ can be used correctly in relation to a restricted set of values but I am inclined to agree with @eudaimonia in thinking that the connotation is misleading.

#23

Or we can just all stop caring about something as irrelevant as a card name. If you don’t like the name and therefore don’t want to use the card, go ahead. Since you are the only person even remotely caring, this is not going to be changed, especially since the cards name doesn’t have a definite mistake in it or sth.

#24

So one voice doesn’t matter, is what you’re saying?

And somehow you have more of a right to post a comment that literally has no value than I do to voice a genuine opinion.

It always amazes me how people feel the need to chip in with pointless comments. If you thought it was irrelevant, then you needn’t have commented. It is that simple.

#25

In this case bounded is not a verb, it’s an adjective. Bounded is describing lifeforce, the lifeforce is bounded; meaning that it has boundaries and is limited in someway. Personally i never took a second glance at the card name, but it does make sense.

#26

Yeah exactly that, one voice doesn’t matter. Neither yours nor mine.

You can go on with this discussion, i don’t mind, i am just saying its a fruitless one :slight_smile:

#27

First, you “opened the door” to the matter of qualifications when you suggested that you had better qualifications due to being a “native English speaker”. If that makes your opinion superior to that of a non-native speaker, then my published book and being paid for years to edit others’ work makes my opinion arguably superior to yours.

Read the lore for the card.

What happens if you cast Bounded Lifeforce, remain at 10 health, and the next turn cast Earth Sphere? Nothing, that’s what. In exchange for +8 attack, your “lifeforce” (health total) has been restricted (bounded) to the lower value of 10.

It’s really very simple.

Ah yes, this sort of thing is always highly persuasive.

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#28

I don’t really know what you guys are talking about but I’ve tried my best to be usefull:
https://duelystdb.com/card/custom?attack=0&health=0&cost=7&name=Dino%20dino%20morph%20bitch&image=https%3A%2F%2Fduelystdb.com%2Fsprites%2F20118_idle.png&type=Spell&rarity=3&description=Pull%208%20damage%20out%20of%20your%20anus
Sorry for link I would upload the image if I could.

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#29

Dude. There are a lot of people that have given you their opinion on the matter. You don’t even try to see them. Could you at least give them credit for going out of their way to look for something useless, even, to discuss what you brought up ? And yet, you are being close minded and do not even consider them. Damn.

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#30

How… How about we put a question mark at the end… And call it a day

PS Dewarldo

#31

Being a native speaker of a language quite clearly confers an advantage against non-native speakers. I’ve written half a dozen published scientific papers so no, your opinion as a published writer doesn’t make your opinion superior to mine.

And my opinion isn’t superior to yours. I’m just saying it’s not the best way to get across what the developers clearly meant as illustrated by the other posters in the thread. That yes, your lifeforce is restricted or “bounded” to 10 and you gain +8 attack for it.

It’s just a very woolly name for the card.

You also can’t expect to throw a backhanded implication of superiority about and not be challenged on it? Come on, if you really are an intellectual sort you shouldn’t need to resort to bringing out your CV to make a point.

EDIT :- dewize, you’re quite right. Thanks guys for the info. I honestly hadn’t considered the meaning of “bounded” as “restricted” and you’ve helped it make MORE sense to me, but I still don’t like it :stuck_out_tongue: