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Arcanelysk Vetruvian - Alplod's (Stupid) Gimmicky Ideas

#1

Well, I’m still trying to make idiotic decks which seem innovative to me.

More than once I stated that I love arcanyst decks. Also I like hybrid decks. Also I like being original. Also…well, up to the point.

What faction is the best for Arcanyst Builds? Of course, the one having most cantrips - that’s the way to omit card draw. And this one is Vetruvian.

The problem is that Vet Cantrips are Obelisk Based. Thus the hybrid Obelisk/Acanyst Deck.

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I can’t discuss card ideas in depth, cause it is just a quick draft. I’m trying to optimise it as much as possible, but the core is:

  1. Owlbeast - obvious.
  2. First wish, Reassemble, Whisper of Sands - cantrips.
  3. Some Obelisks, cause reassemble and whisper of sands.

Everything else is arguable.

Yeah, I know the idea is stupid. But, as always, I want to make it at least gold-worthy.

Any suggestions?

P.S. The problem is also I play no Vetruvian (and Magmar) so I actually don’t know how to construct (and play) Obelisk decks.

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#2

Why duskweaver? Why Ghoulie? Why Manaforger (x3)?

PS Blue Conjurer is gross. :slight_smile:

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#3

I think you’re overlooking some better potentials

swap duskweaver for cryptographers - the 1 mana spell that doesn’t cost a card with a stronger body

drop manaforger to either x2 or x1, i’ll go into deeper reason in the future (busy atm), - can add in loreweavers for more spells (does this work with roka?)

swap ghoulie for rokadoptera - 0 mana spells

other serious considerations - Trinity Wing (also dislike this card), Abjudicator

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#4

OK, let’s go explaining.

I want to have permanent card advantage, early game included. Thus Duskweaver, who are cycles by themselves and have 33% chance to give another cheap cycling spell.

Manaforgers are usual early game choice for Arcanyst decks.

Ghoulie is a nice rather cheap body, which we lack otherwise. It also synergises with Owlbeast, Fire Obelysk and ocassional third wish from Duskweaver.

Trinity wing is rather useless. I tried to use it in this deck, but since I have no less than 4-5 cards in hand there’s usually no point in playing it. Thus, loreweavers are useless, too - we have enough draw.

No, it doesn’t. You should draw a spell to activate loreweavers effect - not put it in hand.

Rokadoptera and especially Crypto could be useful, thanks for advice.

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#5

I also like the idea of hybrid and arcanyst Vet decks and tried to play them back when AB was first released. Unfortunately, Hybrid decks don’t work well, it’s just too hard to try to support arcanysts and obelysks at the same time. On the other hand arcanyst Vet has some potential, but I never managed to make a really good arcanyst deck.

If you want to go full arcanyst I would highly recommend a few copies of Inner Oasis and
maybe try Prismatic Illusionist.

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#6

Somehow pure Vet arcanysts seem rather boring to me. I dunno why. I tried.

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#7

Did you straight up ignore Inner Oasis? In my opinion this is the best vet cantrip you can get. It may be a bit expensive compared to the others but it really synergizes with the overarching swarm theme.

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#8

Is there any reason why you would ever run crypto in zirix, the card is terrible, worse than orb weaver most of the time (a card that doesn’t see play ever, not even in gauntlet). Sure it gives you an extra bbs proc, but that isn’t worth it at the cost of playing one of the worst possible cards for this general. If you are looking for cheap spells then duskweaver is much better, as it acts as card advantage as well as giving you a spell.

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#9

No swarm here - thus no need for inner Oasis. To have swarm, one will probably have to add Illusionist/Firestarter, but these are very hard to play effectively in a hybrid list.

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#10

honestly the biggest chage I would make to this list would be -2 trygon, -1 reassemble, +3 falcius, the card is so strong it is pretty much never wrong to put 3 copies in your deck.

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#11

I would play Inner Oasis even in a Vet midrange list. As soon as you have at least 2 minions out the card begins to have real value. Especially with zirix this is really easy to do. As soon as your minions reach over the 3 Power treshold like Owlbeast or Conjurer the value is getting ridiculous.

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#12

seems like a fine idea, will probably test it once my winning streak breaks.

My only advise is to ditch the second wishes and go with something else. I’ll swap it out for +1 rasha and 2 mirage

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#13

Feralu and stars fury could go a long way here. Maybe:

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#14

Overall I am skeptical of mixing Oblysks as you need to fairly commit to their archtype…however Arcane Vet certainly has potential, perhaps something more like this:

http://www.bagoum.com/deckbuilder#MToyMDEsMjoyMDI4NiwzOjEwMDAxLDM6MjAwOTUsMzoxMDk5MywzOjEwMzAyLDM6MjAwOTksMzoyMjYsMzoyMDE1MywzOjEwMzAzLDM6MTEwMzUsMzoxMDMwNiwzOjEwMzA1LDM6MjAyNTQsMToxMTA5Nw==

That actually looks pretty dang scary, I am going to have to give that a run.

Aether brings further consistency to azure combo, bender helps vs walls and other nonsense, inner oasis can utterly break both azure combo and prismatic. Deck has good cycle with plenty of spells to abuse.

Edits:

Deck was a little light on card advantage, trinity wing seems like a natural solution as a one of.

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#15

I’ll definitely try this ASAP. Wanna top this list with Blue Conjurer probably. -1 Azure (cause I only have 2), -1 lightbender, +2 Blue Conjurer.

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#16

I think trinity is a much better deal.

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#17

I agree, I just want to play with cheesy RNG :slight_smile:

Since this deck doesn’t have lots of spells Trinity is definitely a better choice.

EDIT. Just understood trinity is flying!

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#18

Correction: I forgot trinity had flying, so its actually a pretty interesting choice between it and conjuerer.

You can run trinity as a one of and he wont drop the azure consistency to much, in fact I sort of like cutting one azure for him and not trying to go for the turn one/turn two blow out, letting you draw into him for the end of the combo.

Or alternatively Conjurer accomplishes a similar job without hitting consistency at all. Think for now I am going to give 2x azure, and 1x trinity a try.

I also loath the RNG nature of Conjurer so I am actively avoiding it.

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#19

Blue conjurer is actually a fantastic card to drop in almost any deck. It would se more play if the options were more scarce.

I’ve seen it being droped in lyonar decks that use low cost spells for instant value, and pulling something like a calligrapher or Trinity wing out of it is just stupid. Would certainly include 2 of it in my try.

Also, feralu is indeed amazing in this deck. Still trying the obelysk variant tho

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#20

Well, tried them all. Seems fun, but no success, I guess I just wasn’t made for playing vet :frowning:

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